Thu 09 Feb 2012 08:00:56
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
Message | Clint. Some old movie star. |
Wed 08 Feb 2012 04:03:21
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Could you maybe rewrite that last post making it understandable? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Also, who is this Clint that the right is so against? |
Wed 08 Feb 2012 03:32:35
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | Thank you I am pretty perceptive. Almost fell of my chair when some one mentioned tea party and rooster. That is an oxymoron. Rooster thinks---"tea" partiers just change the color of good water to a murky sour taste. In the end it is still water. |
Wed 08 Feb 2012 12:30:29
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | You don't expect me to recognize racism and I see you as a person who sees it under every bush and likes to play the card often. Chinese girl in a rice paddy. Oh the horror. |
Wed 08 Feb 2012 12:07:12
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | I sure don't expect you to know racism when you see it, But I bet a lot of people sensed it and just look at the Right Wing attack on Clint for something about the auto industry. |
Wed 08 Feb 2012 11:17:57
Wed 08 Feb 2012 11:13:13
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Hey Bob, I saw that Super Bowl commercial by senate candidate Hoekstra. Please tell me what the heck is racial about portraying a Chinese girl peddling a bike on a road through a rice paddy? There are rice paddys all over China and there are thousands of young girls working in them. I think the add would have been much more effective had it portrayed a well dressed young Chinese male behind a desk but I fail to see anything racial about a Chinese girl in a rice paddy. |
Wed 08 Feb 2012 11:10:05
| Name : | rooster |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Whatever you think at least I'm not a lying nazi hypocrite like some of these guys. If they don't like me calling them out for what they are too bad. It's payback time for those scum weasels. |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 05:10:25
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
Message | Rooster sounds like a left wing version of the tea party. |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 02:59:38
Tue 07 Feb 2012 02:52:50
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | To Rooster |
Message | Thanks for watching my back! But don't hold your breath waiting for any examples. It's okay anyway, insults from someone like Rooster are really compliments! |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 02:51:53
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | Rooster |
| Message | My pointing out someone else's OBVIOUS prejudice somehow makes ME a racist and liar? Sounds a bit daft. |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 12:01:13
| Name : | To Rooster |
| Email : | |
| Message | Please give us an example of a lie by WRT. I don't mean something that you don't agree with, I want an out and out lie here. |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 11:54:19
| Name : | Rooster |
| Email : | attention nazi scum! |
| Message | I'm half mexican and half german. Germans are smart and mexicans are hard working. If you racist nazis think I'm prejudice for that you're dumb ass nut cases! |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 11:50:01
| Name : | Rooster |
| Email : | WRT |
Message | At least Obi Canoli is honest enough to admit he is a Nazi, you lying twerp. |
Tue 07 Feb 2012 11:48:00
| Name : | Rooster |
| Email : | Obi Canoli |
| Message | You're just a mexican uncle tom. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 07:48:18
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | I don't see too many people on the dole kicking in 1 Billion dollars to elect a President. I think a great many on the dole are in my apathetic count. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 07:30:01
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | BW.. grasshoppah |
| Message | QUOTE: "Apathy kills. You wind up with people with lots of money determining our choice". What a goofy statement. No matter how cynical you are about the FREE'ST country in the world's voting method/process... you have to be a little more realistic and HONEST with your thought. Why do only 50% of Americans vote??.... why?.. because it AIN'T BAD HERE!!... electing a democrat or a republican.. it's all the same.. Americans, for the most part, are living the "Life of Riley"... Why do only 50% of Americans vote?.. because no matter who they vote for, or who wins, not much is gonna change.. and who ever wins, it's still gonna be GREAT living in America. So half of America is going to watch TV in the comfort of their couch instead of going out in the weather to vote. So don't posture!!... when and if things get, really, really, really bad in America.. the cave man will come out in all of us.. and it will be kill or be killed. If you ain't like us.. you ain't with us. Trust your pappy on that.. it's a human thing. Be thankful it ain't gonna happen in your lifetime.. but it will happen. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 07:24:14
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | You say people with a lot of money determine our choices. Some might disagree with you and say far to many people on the dole are determining our choices or far to many people that pay absolutely ZERO taxes are determining our choices. In any case we sure have made some awful choices over the years. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 07:09:06
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | To be perfectly honest I hate intimidation of any kind when it comes to voting. I really wish we who have free choices would exercise the right to vote. Not the pathetic 55-60% we wind up with. Apathy kills. You wind up with people with lots of money determining our choice. I think the dems are not satisfied with a lot of what Obama has done they are more united behind him than the republicans are united. I really think over 60% of real republicans would prefer some one other than Romney,Ginrich,Santorum or Paul. I still think the best candidate is Jeb Bush with Chris Christie as VP or maybe the Gov of Indiana, Daniels for VP. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 06:56:15
Mon 06 Feb 2012 06:44:31
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | The police were called and one man was removed. That was 2008 no problems at that precinct in 2010. The stuff in Orange County went on for decades. Do you remember the mob attacking the ballot counting place in 2000 in Fla. All those angry WHITE people. All ya gotta do is look this stuff up. It's right there in plain sight. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 06:40:15
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT/df/all |
| Message | Google PETE HOEKSTRA and you can look up the vidieo |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 06:32:40
Mon 06 Feb 2012 03:57:22
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | I didn't see that Republican Superbowl commercial. Tell us about it. Just the facts, please. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 03:33:51
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Bet you REALLY enjoyed that commercial during the Super Bowl put our by the Republican (how do you say racist) senate candidate running in Michigan. Voters who are not lily white this is what they really think of you from top to the last tea partier. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 03:31:04
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Why don't you go back and research those two VICIOUS black panthers standing in front of a Black precinct where in all likely hood not many whites would be voting in the first place. Then research how Orange County republicans harassed Mexicans trying to vote until the Hispanics won out by out voting them. |
Mon 06 Feb 2012 02:57:17
Mon 06 Feb 2012 02:54:22
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | |
| Message | Yikes! I saw a poll today that has Obama beating Romney in the general election by about 6% of registered voters. Luckily it was a totally unreliable Washington Post/ABC poll! |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 04:58:37
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | When you say "Mexicans are hard workers"... what do you base that on?.. the Messicans that mow your lawn?.. or the Messicans that work at NASA...??.. or both? Just curious... |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 04:14:15
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Let me ask you.. If I said something "good", like you did.. like if I said "Germans are smart people".. would that be ok with you?.. Hows about if I said.. "you cant beat an African for athletic ability". Saying something nice, can NEVER be racist.. right? "df"... can you be a bigger a-hole them me??.. I didn't think so.. but I'm having second thoughts.. |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 02:26:39
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
Message | Some brilliant "df" quotes: "You guys claim it's sad to say something good [about a group of people]" "you guys are making all non right-wing extremists look better" ".. "Nice try... WHITIE!!!!!!!!!!!!.. lol" Does this meet your definition of a racially prejudiced & sad remark? MUCH! I know it's OK if it's Obi ..... right. He's just an entertainer. ' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You typecast a whole group of people and say "you said something good"?? "non right-extremists".. so you admit there are NON RIGHT extremists?? "WHITIE"... yep, I called you "whitie".. cuz I'm a right wing, Nazi, prejudice, biased, racist, bigot. I admit it.. you on the other hand.. can label "Mexicans as hard working people"... and that's not biased?, prejudiced? or racist?? "df".. your halo is tarnished.. going on offense is the best defense.. but you cant hide from your racist remarks. I think you are under estimating the "looky loos"... even Ray Charles can see that your remarks are racist. |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 12:52:28
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi/WRT |
| Message | "Nice try... WHITIE!!!!!!!!!!!!.. lol" Does this meet your definition of a racially prejudiced & sad remark? MUCH! I know it's OK if it's Obi ..... right. He's just an entertainer. LOL. |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 12:44:05
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | I can't quit laughing about this. You guys claim it's sad to say something good. Please don't stop till November. |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 12:37:09
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | "I'm curious.. are "black" people hard working?.. how about Jewish people?.. is it just Messican people?" Obi ...... how about you telling us which racial or ethnic groups you think aren't hard working? Besides yourself that is. Then they won't have to waste their time applying for a job at your new bidness. |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 12:30:53
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT/Obi |
| Message | "the cardinal rules says; you admit your mistake and move on.. " I'm torn between laughing about how you guys are making all non right-wing extremists look better than you guys by breaking Obi's cardinal rule and hoping WRT and Obi don't figure out they're making their side look strange by being against saying nice things about people. Maybe we'll get to see how they tap dance around that. Pay attention all you looky loo voters out there. These guys are spilling the beans about how strange the right has become under wing nut tea party rule. |
Sun 05 Feb 2012 12:21:51
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Moderates & libs best new pal WRT |
| Message | "How the hell ANYONE could construe the "sad" part of that statement as being aimed at anything other than your prejudice" Nice that you admit now that your sad comment is aimed at my saying something good, that Mexicans are justifiably proud of, about the Mexican people as if that's a form of sad prejudice! LOL! Explain again why you think it's bad to say nice things about people. This is great stuff. How many votes do you think it'll cost the right wing extremists in the election. You guys are against saying nice things about people. LOL. Moderates and liberals couldn't come up with anything better to show how bizarre the right is now days if they wanted to. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 03:37:05
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | What I find amazing and contradictory is.. you paint yourself as a political sophisticate... YET!!.. you have broken the cardinal rule. You screwed up.. and the cardinal rules says; you admit your mistake and move on.. but nooo not you!! Instead of admitting your mistake and moving on, you have gone into this fancy tap dance.. and because of that, it ain't gonna end. I had this perception of you as a smart guy and a nice guy... I'm rethinking the "smart guy" part.. LOL |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 03:22:46
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I'm a Messican... so you know all about me.. and you lub me, right. Well, as soon as I win the LOTTO I'm going to start my own bidness. And I want to make sure I hire the hardest working people I can find. So... as your best buddy, can you give me a list of the hardest working people I should look for... give me a list and rank the people. like; Africans Messicans Italians Irish Gypsies Pollok's etc. etc. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 03:09:08
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Here's my exact quote... "More prejudice from the left. We colorblind conservatives know you can't determine personality traits, or the content of someone's character, by looking at their race or nationality. Obviously, df believes you can. It's so sad in this day and age. I suppose he probably also thinks all Japanese are photo equipment experts and all African-Americans are good dancers." How the hell ANYONE could construe the "sad" part of that statement as being aimed at anything other than your prejudice is beyond me. Unless, of course, it's a person like you that knows they're hopelessly wrong and TOTALLY embarrassed. Keep on spinning pal! Spinning at the end of that noose you tied yourself! |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 03:00:37
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I'm curious.. are "black" people hard working?.. how about Jewish people?.. is it just Messican people? Enlighten us.. CRACKER!!! |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:57:02
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT/Obi/the usual alter egos |
| Message | Ever wonder why no tea party goofs are electable for president? Read your comments for a real big clue. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:51:04
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT insults the Mexican People yet another time! |
| Message | More sophistry from you! Here is your exact quote: "It's so sad in this day and age." So this was not some neutral prejudice you allege. Why can you not admit that the Mexican people are hard working and that complimenting them for it is a decent thing to do! You need to face the fact that you are insulting the Mexican people! No matter how pure you may "prefer" to think you are, the vast majority of the Mexican People will see you as a racist hypocrite for your insult and then phony evasive tactics. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:42:08
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Messican "df" |
| Message | QUOTE: "The Mexican people are justly proud of the fact that they are hard working" hahahahaaha.. "df", I know that you are sweet guy.. but if you don't acknowledge that you opened your big mouth and stepped into a pile of crap.. then it says to me that you are only "book smart".. NOT life smart. Nice try... WHITIE!!!!!!!!!!!!.. lol You should read your posts and think about them before you push the button.. LOL |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:39:34
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "Try skipping all the sophistry of using a different definition of prejudice than the one you used." What different definition? What the hell are you talking about? I've applied the same definition all along. The same one duh highlighted. The same one that fit your prejudiced statement. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:31:15
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | Drivel on dude. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:28:45
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "You claim it was a sad thing that I complimented the Mexican people" No, I never claimed that. It's a sad thing that you pre-judged an entire people based on national origin. It doesn't matter that it was a "positive" prejudice. It's prejudice all the same. Unless, of course, you've had the opportunity to study every Mexican man, woman and child and make an assessment of their work ethic. Have you? |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:28:25
| Name : | df |
| Email : | The "Party of HELL NO" denies being the "Party of HELL NO"? |
| Message | The Republicans, totally controlled by the tea party political crazies, gloried in being the "Party of Hell No" during those years that the hypocrites are now saying Obama did nothing. They stopped every meaningful attempt to improve people's lives out of the selfish and childish desire to hurt the American people so they could snivel that it was Obama's fault. Their main mouthpiece and kingpin Rush Limbaugh even bragged about it. The Republicans are a disgrace because of this and their congress' approval rating of 9% shows the public is on to their pathetic selfishness at the expense of the American people. All their candidates have turned out to be clowns and now the Rockefeller Liberals are using their billions and the disgraceful record of the tea party to smash the tea party. The tea party clowns blew it. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:20:27
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannili |
| Email : | df |
| Message | How are you labeling the "blacks" (African Americans) and the Jews... I mean lets explore your logic and feelings. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:17:06
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "you complimented the Mexican people" By labeling the Mexican people as "hard working people"?.. you think that's a compliment, in your mind? What era are you living in?.. it sure ain't the era of "political correctness". |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 02:08:57
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | You claim it was a sad thing that I complimented the Mexican people. The Mexican people are justly proud of the fact that they are hard working, but you say it's prejudice to acknowledge it? Now that's what is sad! How do you defend that? Try skipping all the sophistry of using a different definition of prejudice than the one you used. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 01:49:06
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I happen to know a VERY LAZY Messican.. and he is me!! PLUS!!.. I ain't no Democrat!!.. so don't typecast us Messicans! |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 12:23:11
Sat 04 Feb 2012 12:11:08
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | I admire your support of df. I've said many times that conservative racism is a myth and that it's the liberals that have the racist policies. df's membership in that club, and support of those policies, are the ONLY instances of racism I've seen in him. But, there can be NO DOUBT that his "Mexicans are hard workers" statement was prejudice. None of his nonsensical contortions will change that. He should just admit it or drop it altogether. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 11:51:04
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | I think you are going over the top. I don't think, you, df, wrt or anybody can be judged wholly by their post. People are responding to "words" posted on the board and what those words convey to the reader. I think it's WONDERFUL that you loyally, standby and support your friend. And, I think it's WONDERFUL that you can share and define someone's character here. But, in my opinion you should also remember.. posters and looky loos react to the POST, regardless of the poster's character. Just a thought.. I don't know what the hell I'm talking about most the time... LOL |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 08:23:30
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | I have known Dave Francis since 1957. Not once in all these years has he done one thing for you to call him names (prejudice)about the Mexican people. He loves them and respects them. He used to spend all his free time (vacation etc) in Mexico, And while he doesn't use it I am pretty sure he is pretty bilingual. Even today he takes off and spends time with his Indian friends. He is just one very fine person and I am GLAD to know him and call him a friend. So I guess I am prejudice in calling a a friend. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 08:18:17
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Do nothing is what we got from 8 years of the bush administration and is one of the prime reasons we almost fell into a depression. I can't think of ONE thing the republicans have done in the past 4 years to stimulate the economy. They have control of both houses. For those of you who really know unless you have 60 you have no majority in the senate so you can block everything with just 41 and they do a good job of it. But giving you credit I think you are right. While I don't in any way that President Obama is responsible for the financial situation we are in I also don't give him credit for the spurt we are seeing. Give the credit where it is due. American business is picking up little by little. And until we get this housing situation under control there will never be any real long term rise in employment. We will probably forever have 3-5 million people who just can't find a job. |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 07:20:23
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "But we all know what you are" Scratch that and change it to "we all know what you said". |
Sat 04 Feb 2012 05:34:14
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I don't think ANYBODY knows what the hell you're talking about. But we all know what you are. You pre-judged an entire group. It doesn't matter whether your judgement was good or bad...it's prejudice and I spotted it toot sweet. |
Fri 03 Feb 2012 11:51:58
| Name : | df |
| Email : | the tea pot loses it's steam? |
| Message | Various news sources are already discussing the growing unpopularity of the tea party and it's policies. They generally suggest that the days of tea party power are already just about done. They seem not to be surviving the attacks of the Rockefeller Liberal Republicans behind Romney. Is it true? Maybe the ongoing clown act by Tea Party candidates made them seem befuddled and strange while they still have their fanatic base to bounce back from all the public scrutiny? If true politics will become a lot more boring. |
Fri 03 Feb 2012 11:39:15
Fri 03 Feb 2012 11:33:09
| Name : | df |
| Email : | hypocrisy |
| Message | "DF would be leading the pack of those calling it racial prejudice or worse." This is WRT trying to cover his tracks after gargling shoe leather by calling me prejudiced for complimenting the Mexican people. Interestingly his mentor Rush Limbaugh is relentless in the same form of hypocrisy. You can always tell when he has told a certain form of lie cause he immediately accuses others of doing the very thing he just did. A chip of the old block. |
Fri 03 Feb 2012 11:25:35
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT/DUH and all his other alter egos |
| Message | This is WRT's judgement of my complimenting the Mexican people by saying "they are hard workers" He calls it prejudice and "It's so sad in this day and age." Clearly he is calling it prejudice in a "It's so sad in this day and age" way. Not just in a "preconceived judgement or opinion" way as you sophists hope to hide your heads in the sand behind. Another obvious distortion of the truth even if you just wish it really wasn't so. |
Fri 03 Feb 2012 02:06:58
Thu 02 Feb 2012 05:19:10
Thu 02 Feb 2012 04:54:15
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df.. aka dufus |
Message | Hey now.. wait a dang cotton picken minute.. I'M A MESSICAN.. and you ain't never paid me no "compliment".. therefore.. YOU ARE A RACIST!! You rich avocado growers think you are "all that"... NOT!!! |
Thu 02 Feb 2012 04:52:17
| Name : | No df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Duh didn't say that. Duh said "BINGO" because he got you and he got you good and you are trying to spin your way out ans I, for onr, am not buying your spin. |
Thu 02 Feb 2012 03:06:57
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Duh/WRT |
| Message | So you say all of WRT's sniveling was just about me complimenting Mexicans? You realize this makes WRT look really bizarre. By your definition, he still is trying to gain some kind of weirdo right wing-nut spin by using a word universally associated with disrespect to BS the unwary? LOL. After you wipe the foam from your mouth try again. That's two strikes. You didn't hit a home run. That was the catcher throwing the ball back to the pitcher, again. |
Thu 02 Feb 2012 10:33:44
| Name : | duh |
| Email : | df |
| Message | a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion BINGO!!! In your case a preconceived judgement or opinion based on national origin. Thanks for the juicypitch Charley Brown!!!! HOME RUN FOR DUH!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! |
Thu 02 Feb 2012 07:41:36
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Mr. duh lives up to his name! |
| Message | Webster's definition of PREJUDICE: 1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims. 2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. b : an instance of such judgment or opinion. c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics. So really, you're hiding behind a different meaning of prejudice than the way WRT used it. An obvious intentional distortion of the truth for crass political gain. Look in Webster's for the definition of that. |
Thu 02 Feb 2012 07:09:39
| Name : | duh |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Of course it's still prejudice! Don't play dumb!!!!!!!! |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 11:57:05
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Cause I wrote "Mexicans are hard workers" You claim "More prejudice from the left." Complimenting people is now prejudice? How bizarre can you get? |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 03:03:42
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | I am living proof of that. I am one giant, lazy Messican.. the word "work" is vewy offensive to me!! |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 02:51:53
Wed 01 Feb 2012 02:00:46
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | I was quoting millions of republicans. I have to admit that is pretty funny now that you bring it up. |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 09:22:52
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | high five |
| Message | QUOTE: "You think Romney's a liberal, but you call yourself a moderate? Until your next post, that'll be the funniest thing I've ever heard! " HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... score another GIANT HIT for WRT!!! |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 03:10:42
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I hope the warranty on your political compass hasn't expired. You think Romney's a liberal, but you call yourself a moderate? Until your next post, that'll be the funniest thing I've ever heard! I don't think Obama need worry. Most of Wall Street's money will be going to him just like it did in 2008. |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 12:17:55
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | How about the way the Brit's government is a coalition between the Conservatives and the Liberals? Mind boggling. |
Wed 01 Feb 2012 12:10:25
| Name : | df |
| Email : | the repubs turn liberal! |
| Message | The tea party needs to rally around one guy or all that wall street big oil money will finish them off. Seems they like having the tea party fight their fights for them but don't trust them to lead. What with the republican congress being so unpopular we could end up with a wall street liberal republican president and a dramatically weaker tea party. It will have been a short run straight to the dust bins of history for the tea party. Then in a few more months the repubs will trying to deny they ever sucked up to the tea party like they have, even. |
Tue 31 Jan 2012 11:56:02
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Syria |
| Message | Events in Syria are clearly moving in a direction favorable to the US and against the interests of Iran. Iran's currency has now lost half it's value due to sanctions, so they can hardly help Assad very much besides their usual goon squad stuff and it's estimated that Assad will run out of money by summer. Assad must be Iran's biggest international asset at this time. Assuming the US has the intelligence to to stand back enough to not become an issue there, we seem to be watching a huge defeat for Iran at virtually no cost to ourselves. Russia may also lose it's naval base in Syria and and the huge Russian fighter plane sale to Syria also flop. Further, this whole Syria thing may well merge with the developing civil war in Iraq to be part of a huge Sunni vs. Shiite war that could last many years. Better they fight each other instead of us, I say. So we need to stay out as much as possible. |
Tue 31 Jan 2012 11:40:23
| Name : | df |
| Email : | oops |
| Message | That thing about the border patrol and Obi wasn't meant for this board, it was part of an e-mail to some Mexican friends of mine who are "looky loos" who are laughing about the hypocrisy here. The rest of it was "Mexicans are hard workers and Obi is hardly working." |
Tue 31 Jan 2012 06:15:05
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | |
| Message | I wonder if Santorum will drop out now. That would tighten things up between Mitt and Newt. |
Tue 31 Jan 2012 04:31:26
Tue 31 Jan 2012 03:36:34
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | "You don't have a fair or objective bone in your body, do you." I'm glad to see that you left the question mark off this statement. No need for it. |
Mon 30 Jan 2012 06:01:24
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | I tend to agree with your last post but how about a little credit to politicians for the mess we are in? |
Mon 30 Jan 2012 04:14:14
| Name : | Obie-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You don't have a fair or objective bone in your body, do you. Comparing the "occupiers" to the "Tea Party" is like comparing the Boy Scouts to the "gang bangers" in your town. |
Mon 30 Jan 2012 11:52:08
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | From PAW |
| Message | I watched British Parliament some time way back. It's a riot isn't it. How do they get anything done? |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 09:58:49
| Name : | df |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | re: occupy Well, the tea party thought they owned the franchise, so now the tea pot is calling the kettle black. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 06:41:19
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | I was watching the British Parliament the other day and it kinda reminded me of the uproar around here. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 06:26:53
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | "if "df" sends me to jail.. I can be back in his house the next day and watch his TV and raid his fridge." That's not the way it works around my mom. The cops bring runaways back in chains. They can tell they're hers from all the scars, etc. Obi might try calling the Border Patrol though, like Cheech and Chong, if they'll believe he's really Mexican and if the Mexicans will allow him across the border that is. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 05:43:56
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | "It gave me an idea. I think I will go "occupy" "df's" house... watch me some TV, eat me some avocados." I showed this to my mom just now. She says she needs another slave to pull weeds and will provide Obi with a nice little shack out there, a former nice little dog house that is. Remember Marjorie Main in those old "mom and pa kettle" movies? Well that's my mom, except for my mom's electric cattle prod that is. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 05:39:38
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | Even though I sympathies with the occupiers I don't think the original people who really had good intentions are running the show. Now I think anarchist, homeless and others that don't really care what is going on are running the show. What sensible caring American would invade a city hall? But the bottom line is that the big banks and wall street screwed everyone of us and are cashing in their big bonuses. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 05:36:32
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | "I agree that the right will try to minimize the growth but the left will attempt to exaggerate the growth." That's what the righties claim anyway. Their track record doesn't match their rhetoric. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 05:29:54
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Is there a BC this weekend? |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 05:29:14
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Message | Good Idea!! |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 05:28:47
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | I hope you like your TV watching with the volume turned up all the way cause that's the way my deaf mom likes it. And she's not as easy to get along with as I am. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 02:11:53
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | occupy THIS |
| Message | I was listening to the news while I was working on the computer... They had one of the "occupy" leaders on the TV.. he said he will be glad to go to jail.. cuz he will be out the next day.. and he will do the same thing.. get arrested and back out on the street the next day. It gave me an idea. I think I will go "occupy" "df's" house... watch me some TV, eat me some avocados and if "df" sends me to jail.. I can be back in his house the next day and watch his TV and raid his fridge. |
Sun 29 Jan 2012 10:49:07
Sun 29 Jan 2012 10:31:03
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Okay, I'm with you except for one thing. I agree that the right will try to minimize the growth but the left will attempt to exaggerate the growth. That's politics, a nasty business. |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 10:47:48
Sat 28 Jan 2012 06:16:21
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | First you say that the economy is improving in spite of less govt. spending. I must therefore assume that you are saying what you are saying,re:govt.spending down, economy up. Then you say that the economy would have recovered faster if govt. spending had remained neutral,re: if spending had not gone down the economy would have grown faster. I'm no economist but I have a hard time believing that govt. spending is GOOD for the economy over-all. Maybe, MAYBE in the very short run but them the chickens come home to roost when the bills come in for our kids to pay. |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 05:08:46
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Granted that spending way more than the government takes in is inflationary. |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 05:06:45
Sat 28 Jan 2012 02:24:45
| Name : | rw |
| Email : | obi |
| Message | that is a good picture of you LOL!!!!!!!!!!! |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 11:09:08
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | omg |
| Message | Thanks! You're certainly one of a kind. You obviously posted before you saw df's "turn the other cheek" joke! Now THAT'S comedy! |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 09:49:32
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Why should right wingers deny that the economy is improving while Government spending and government employment are both down? They should say SEE, GOVERMENT EMPLOYMENT AND SPENDING ARE DOWN AND LOOK AT THE ECONOMY IMPROVING. HEY OBAMA, QUIT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY. |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 09:42:53
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Who's the fool? I didn't say antbody was a fool, certainly not Obama. So why do you ask? Bob, it's absolutely amazing how often you fail to get the point. |
Sat 28 Jan 2012 08:12:02
Sat 28 Jan 2012 05:59:14
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | Who's the fool. Obama for selling it or the person who buys it and pays more than when the car was NEW. OR you for having nothing pertinent to say today. OMG. Obama's my guy. |
Fri 27 Jan 2012 08:06:07
Fri 27 Jan 2012 04:46:29
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You need all the help you can get. Call me anything you want if it makes you feel less inadequate. |
Fri 27 Jan 2012 04:42:32
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | So yo prefer to be addressed as Mr. Butt Pirate? |
Fri 27 Jan 2012 02:07:39
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You know what another bad idea is?... MESSIN WITH OBI-JUAN-CANNOLI!!! |
Fri 27 Jan 2012 12:27:11
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | Turning the other cheek to the famous butt pirate doesn't seem like a good idea. |
Fri 27 Jan 2012 07:17:38
| Name : | omg |
| Email : | |
| Message | That Gilligan song is the funniest thing I ever heard!!!! He even looks like Gilligan!!! Perfect!!! |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 10:36:42
| Name : | Your pappy |
| Email : | df |
Message | Was that nice?.. I think not. What do you think your momma would say at such mean behaviour? I forgive you for being mean to me... for I have been taught: Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 09:58:38
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Obi uses that little magnifying lens on the bottom of his r&c glass for his "enlargement." |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 08:06:52
| Name : | LOL |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Newt's ex wife????? |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 08:06:08
| Name : | LOL |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | ? You lost me. |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 07:47:30
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | Did you notice |
| Message | Everyone saw how much Romney gave to charity. Did you notice what Joe Biden donated, around $650 total. Did you notice that 36 of the 430 staffers at the White House are behind on their income tax for a whopping $833,000. |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 07:39:58
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | Every time Newt goes up another percentage point Obama must laugh a little louder. |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 02:57:43
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | politicness interruptness |
| Message | eBay Scam.. No good Bastards!!! Be careful what you purchase on eBay. Our own Dave Francis (df) spent $50 on a penis enlarger. Bastards sent him a magnifying glass. The instructions said don't use in the sunlight. (I have no mercy) |
Thu 26 Jan 2012 09:09:19
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | LOL |
| Message | What a terrible thing to call Newt's ex wife! Shame on you! |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 10:46:08
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Go Seals! |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 10:21:54
| Name : | LOL |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Don't you know???? Nancy has the negatives to the pictures of Newt doing the goat!!! |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 07:05:31
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | I hate to agree withN nancy on anything but this time I'm afraid she's right. He looks like and comes across as a really mad chipmunk. |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 05:41:05
Wed 25 Jan 2012 05:28:50
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Vic64 |
| Message | "hard earned money"? I guess when she can look out her back door and see Russia across the water it can be very stressful. Not to mention the international experience it gives her!" I met some of her political staff last year and they said that, besides being extremely self centered, all mistakes are someone else's doing and all things good are her doing, she is very greedy. One lady said she is so greedy that she probably leaves permanent finger prints in every penny she touches. |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 05:22:18
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | You're recent "facts" didn't turnout to be facts did they? You tried to make it seem as though Palin's claim that Revere, SET OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE, in part, to warn the British is true. When the facts are, that was not true! |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 04:38:53
Wed 25 Jan 2012 03:54:32
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You're welcome, but no thanks are necessary. I'm always happy to use facts to make a complete fool/liar out of you. I've got so much experience at it, it's almost second nature. |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 02:59:04
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | Here's how the recent Palin thing got started. From WRT Jan 18 when he got tired of having people laugh about extremist parts of the right getting caught trying to legalize lying in Canada so they could, obviously, lie there too. "there's a handful of tired, flawed, lame-assed arguments that df can never let go of. Things like legalized lying in Canada, Paul Revere warning the British, the Tea Party shouting down speakers, Obama out to get whitey." I thanked him for bringing up more of this, embarrassing for the wing-nut extremist part of the right stuff, then and several times since and have pointed out some of his weak attempts to distort the truth about these things. Before I forget thank you again WRT. LOL |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 12:21:20
Wed 25 Jan 2012 11:42:55
Wed 25 Jan 2012 09:15:56
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | I'm sure there is more room on the "band wagon" for those who are interested in making comments about Sarah Palin. And that hobby horse may have a little more room too. |
Wed 25 Jan 2012 08:23:20
| Name : | vic64 |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "hard earned money"? I guess when she can look out her back door and see Russia across the water it can be very stressful. Not to mention the international experience it gives her! |
Tue 24 Jan 2012 11:40:01
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Vic64 |
| Message | I still think Palin should have been candid about misspeaking about Revere. I read she was out there shopping with her kids and these news guys were asking her questions. So who doesn't get distracted when their kids are spending your hard earned money once in a while? Instead another credibility killing lame cover-up. |
Tue 24 Jan 2012 11:26:34
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | We'll never get off the island with him around |
| Message | You know, when Obama enters the room to make a speech like he did tonight; I know they're playing "Hail to the Chief". But in my mind I see and hear the people singing a different song... All: G...I...double L...I..G.A.N spells Gilligan Boehner: He is the leader of our nation (sob) Trump: Despite his phony birth certifacation All: G...I...double L...I..G.A.N you seeeeee Barney Frank: He's the dream of all my mates Biden: In all fifty seven states All: Gilligan... Obama: That's me! |
Tue 24 Jan 2012 10:29:11
Tue 24 Jan 2012 07:32:43
Tue 24 Jan 2012 03:04:43
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Your obsession with pointing out what you perceive as mistakes in the knowledge of history.. or for that matter, in anything, of anybody to the "right" of you.. is, is.. way more "telling" about YOU then them. I have a suggestion for you commie, pinko, union, blue collar, dem, progressive, goobers.. Why don't you grab one of "your people" out of the ghetto.. or the union force.. and put them up for political, history debate, or any other kind of learned debate. |
Tue 24 Jan 2012 01:08:24
Tue 24 Jan 2012 06:46:14
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You said, "Revere was captured and questioned by the British soldiers at gunpoint. He told them of the army's movement from Boston, and that British army troops would be in some danger if they approached Lexington, because of the large number of hostile militia gathered there." An OBVIOUS warning to the British! Thanks for helping to make Sarah's case! I guess we can, in TOTAL agreement, finally put this subject to bed! |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 11:58:37
Mon 23 Jan 2012 09:38:09
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Romney threatens Newts backers |
| Message | The NY Times is reporting that Dr. Merriam Adelson, the wife of Sheldon Adelson who recently gave Newt $5 million to create an even fight against Romney in South Carolina, has given Newt an additional $5 million to stand up to Romney in Florida. Dr. Adelson’s contribution was made after days of public and private pressure from allies of Mr. Romney, who hoped to stem the flow of money to Mr. Gingrich and viewed Mr. Adelson’s continued help as potentially devastating to Mr. Romney’s chances. One of Mr. Romney’s chief backers, John H. Sununu, a former New Hampshire governor, referred to Mr. Adelson in a recent television interview as “not so bright” and suggested that he would face retribution from investors in his casino empire. “Does he think people don’t remember when you attack them and pay for the attacks in the primary? Especially when one of the parties receiving that attack is the same investment community that he likes to go to to finance his expansions?” he said. |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 04:30:10
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Dave |
| Message | Well.. like I said. I think I can understand the logic of both sides. I think the quandary for me is.. morality vs practicality vs fairness vs my bias. I "pirate" (a label for those that obtain media from other then a purchase) media off the internet. BUT, it goes deeper.. what is right and what is wrong?... where does our personal morals fit into what societies moral definitions are.. I don't have an answer yet.. I'm still noodling it. My gut feeling is.. if you want to live in the society you live in, then you should obey the society laws... if you don't like the laws, then change them. So, if I try to look at this topic objectively.. I am in the wrong. |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 04:07:23
Mon 23 Jan 2012 03:59:41
| Name : | df |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | I always thougt Gore had the debating skills of a piece of wood when he was still running for office. |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 03:57:18
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Wow |
| Message | In a dramatic turn of events Newt has pulled essentially even with Romney in nation wide polling, by Gallup, 29 to 28% and ahead in Florida by 9%. He was 23% behind just last week I think! I have read that nearly 200,000 have already cast their ballots by mail in Florida, I wonder how they feel about voting so early now? How many voted for Romney that would change if they could? How much will this early voting have helped Romney? |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 01:36:51
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Dave |
| Message | GREAT POST... I was being SOMEWHAT facetious in my post.. but I was serious about the licensing thing. I mean.. if you go buy a music album or a movie DVD.. it seems that the purchase ONLY gives you a license for your PERSONAL viewing/listening. It does NOT give you the right to give, share (distribute) it with others. I think I understand the logic of both sides of the argument. BUT, it just seems to me that if you buy something, you should have the right to do what ever the hell you want to do with the product. |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 01:19:52
Mon 23 Jan 2012 08:07:08
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You are right about being a good debater. So was Al Gore supposed to be. In Newt's case the citizens in 1994 gave him control of the house and the house elected him speaker. Of course that didn't last long as even his own party turned against him over ethics problems. AND that was even before we found out he was every bit as bad as a philanderer as BC. This born again Christian who converted from protest ism to Catholicism ( you can buy your way into heaven in that church (just ask the mafia heads who slaughtered Monday through Friday as their little unknowing wives went off to mass every morning. If that is who the republicans want to send of to DC so be it. And to think Limbaugh and the boys hate ONAMA because he wanted health care for everyone. |
Mon 23 Jan 2012 12:11:58
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Newt |
| Message | I saw some of the Republican's recent debates and I have to admit that Newt was impressive. Various sources claim the Tea Party is starting to fade but Newt could revive their fortunes. One indicator of the TP fading was supposed to a big decline in emotion among their members. No more shouting down speakers, etc. Scientific American published a recent study on them suggesting the same. But Newt is a strong speaker. Remember Reagan was sometimes called the great communicator. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 11:50:20
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Paul Revere's Ride |
| Message | From the current Wikipedia entry: You'll note that the riders were definitely trying to hide their actions and intent from the British, not alarm and inform them. Their mission depended on SECRECY. "Between 9 and 10 p.m. on the night of April 18, 1775, Joseph Warren told Revere and William Dawes that the king's troops were about to embark in boats from Boston bound for Cambridge and the road to Lexington and Concord. Warren's intelligence suggested that the most likely objectives of the regulars' movements later that night would be the capture of Adams and Hancock. They did not worry about the possibility of regulars marching to Concord, since the supplies at Concord were safe, but they did think their leaders in Lexington were unaware of the potential danger that night. Revere and Dawes were sent out to warn them and to alert colonial militias in nearby towns. In the days before April 18, Revere had instructed Robert Newman, the sexton of the North Church, to send a signal by lantern to alert colonists in Charlestown as to the movements of the troops when the information became known. In what is well known today by the phrase "one if by land, two if by sea", one lantern in the steeple would signal the army's choice of the land route while two lanterns would signal the route "by water" across the Charles River.[41] Revere first gave instructions to send the signal to Charlestown. He then crossed the Charles River by rowboat, slipping past the British warship HMS Somerset at anchor. Crossings were banned at that hour, but Revere safely landed in Charlestown and rode to Lexington, avoiding a British patrol and later warning almost every house along the route. The Charlestown colonists dispatched additional riders to the north. Riding through present-day Somerville, Medford, and Arlington, Revere warned patriots along his route, many of whom set out on horseback to deliver warnings of their own. By the end of the night there were probably as many as 40 riders throughout Middlesex County carrying the news of the army's advance. Revere did not shout the phrase later attributed to him ("The British are coming!"): His mission depended on SECRECY, the countryside was filled with British army patrols, and most of the Massachusetts colonists (who were predominantly English in ethnic origin[43]) still considered themselves British.[44] [45] Revere's warning, according to eyewitness accounts of the ride and Revere's own descriptions, was "The Regulars are coming out."[46] Revere arrived in Lexington around midnight, with Dawes arriving about a half hour later. They met with Samuel Adams and John Hancock, who were spending the night with Hancock's relatives (in what is now called the Hancock-Clarke House), and they spent a great deal of time discussing plans of action upon receiving the news. They believed that the forces leaving the city were too large for the sole task of arresting two men and that Concord was the main target.[47] The Lexington men dispatched riders to the surrounding towns, and Revere and Dawes continued along the road to Concord accompanied by Samuel Prescott, a doctor who happened to be in Lexington "returning from a lady friend's house at the awkward hour of 1 a.m." Revere, Dawes, and Prescott were detained by a British Army patrol in Lincoln at a roadblock on the way to Concord.[40] Prescott jumped his horse over a wall and escaped into the woods; he eventually reached Concord. Dawes also escaped, though he fell off his horse not long after and did not complete the ride.[49] Revere was captured and questioned by the British soldiers at gunpoint. He told them of the army's movement from Boston, and that British army troops would be in some danger if they approached Lexington, because of the large number of hostile militia gathered there. He and other captives taken by the patrol were still escorted east toward Lexington, until about a half mile from Lexington they heard a gunshot. The British major demanded Revere explain the gunfire, and Revere replied it was a signal to "alarm the country". As the group drew closer to Lexington, the town bell began to clang rapidly, upon which one of the captives proclaimed to the British soldiers "The bell's a'ringing! The town's alarmed, and you're all dead men!"[50] The British soldiers gathered and decided not to press further towards Lexington but instead to free the prisoners and head back to warn their commanders.[51] The British confiscated Revere's horse and rode off to warn the approaching army column. Revere walked to Rev. Jonas Clarke's house, where Hancock and Adams were staying. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 11:12:12
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | This stuff WRT is posting is more or less the same stuff that Wikipedia is rejecting. WRT's post is only a small part of the baloney they tried to foist on us all. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 05:41:55
| Name : | Hillcrest version |
| Email : | |
| Message | Paul revere was on his way to a gay bathhouse and he was shouting for people to get out of his way. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 03:16:03
Sun 22 Jan 2012 02:22:13
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Palin's Paul Revere bs |
| Message | I still having fun following up on WRT's bizarre defense of this. Here is the Wikipedia response to the pathetic sophistry trying to justify right wing attempts to distort history to protect their valley girl heroine. From the discussion page on Wikipedia regarding the edit war caused by Palin fans attempting to twist the article. “There has been much discussion on this page about Palin fans twisting this article to fit her political flub, and make it seem as if she did not get the obvious facts wrong about Paul Revere's ride. Which, of course, she did. The removal of sourced material is an obvious attempt to make it seem as if Revere was 'warning' the British, when in fact by every reliable source in the article he was bluffing the British and trying to direct them away from Lexington, and more precisely away from Whig leaders Hancock and Adams. Which was part of one of his missions. There was absolutely no valid reason to remove the sourced material, other than it contradicting the version of events being currently propagated by those sympathetic to Sarah Palin. Grasping at straws, I would guess. There has been a flood of edits to the Paul Revere page in the wake of Sarah Palin's gaffe. It's grown simply to get Palin inspired "details" in, not because the added details improve understanding or clarity In the article on Paul Revere, someone has added false information in an effort to support Sarah Palin's FALSE claims about Paul Revere. The page is now semi-protected.” Some of you may wonder why I bother to argue with a fool who defies logic and common sense to claim that a guy trying to avoid capture and execution for warning the Americans that the British are coming was really trying to warn the British instead. Because it's funny! If she said the moon was made of green cheese they would find some quack with a degree or something to equivocate that! I can hardly wait. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 01:39:16
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | Vic |
| Message | Freedom lost anywhere is freedom threatened everywhere. I believe ALL US service personel fighting in ANY conflict are fighting for our freedom. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 10:06:37
| Name : | To vic |
| Email : | |
| Message | Wow! Have you thought of maybe starting a new career as a comedian? |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 09:19:41
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Flush Rush |
| Message | In an interesting turn of events, it turns out that Newt got more votes from South Carolina Repub women than Mitt. You nay recall my post laughing at Rush's remarks calling the Repub women there moonshiners and saying they are into dog fighting just before the election. He did so, he said, on the basis of his TP guys telling him that those women were for Romney 2 to 1 over Mitt. So either his insults drove them to vote for Newt or his TP sources are just the usual pile of BS he relies on. Being in bizarro land like he is, it's fair to wonder if he'll notice. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 07:22:31
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | vic64 |
| Message | GOOD ONE!!!Goes along with lack of integrity,honesty. How did he get that high anyway. |
Sun 22 Jan 2012 04:22:53
Sat 21 Jan 2012 05:35:01
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | Seemingly there is virtually no political news beyond whatever it is the Republicans are up to now! |
Sat 21 Jan 2012 05:32:59
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | BW will all have sorts of women after him now after finding out he is feral. |
Sat 21 Jan 2012 01:56:59
Sat 21 Jan 2012 01:02:58
Sat 21 Jan 2012 12:54:52
Sat 21 Jan 2012 11:12:38
| Name : | rw |
| Email : | paw |
| Message | you are so right,the way its going right now, four more years of more obama.and deeper in debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Sat 21 Jan 2012 09:59:54
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | Those Republican candidates are doing their very best to get Obama reelected. |
Sat 21 Jan 2012 12:37:31
Sat 21 Jan 2012 12:28:31
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Amazing! |
| Message | Today I heard Limbaugh get mad cause he found out that Repub women in South Carolina are not supporting Newt. A very low percentage of them like Newt and lots do like Romney. So Rush said that Repub women there are the type of people who have moonshine stills in their backyards and are into dog fighting, besides being just a bunch of dumb broads. These are Republican women he is talking about!! He thinks this will help Newt? |
Sat 21 Jan 2012 12:21:27
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | Darn it Obi, I have to admit that picture is too funny! |
Fri 20 Jan 2012 05:52:43
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | Obama just wants to delay any decision by him that will cost him votes. After he's reelected he can pull out all stops. A second term president can be a dangerous thing. |
Fri 20 Jan 2012 02:19:11
| Name : | df |
| Email : | keystone |
| Message | For those of you who actually care about this project beyond this political stuff, take heart. I've been following it for over 5 years now, and I would be amazed if this stops this project. Scientists have been studying these aquifers for a long time. And this line going there generated a chance to stimulate research. Those interested in possible leaks say that there is a certain failure rate for these things, they do have leaks, but not very often it seems. This particular company building this has one of the highest failure rates but it's still not high. Just a few cases really from I remember. People living there still didn't like it though, and I guess who can blame them for worrying, cause it would take just once to ruin everything for them. Somehow the part about it not going around that aquifer got through the earlier public input sessions and reviews etc., so now they'll just have to fix it, which involves picking new routes and ginning up new paper work and then going through the usual reviews and nit picking. I read that there is no need to delay pipe and other equipment buys, etc., and further that there's supposed to be great chance that they'll just start work on the southerly non-controversial part as soon as they can get ready, even. The company says product will flow by 2014. Meanwhile, because now it's all so political, we'll hear all sorts of extreme rhetoric, but in the real world the sky has not fallen. |
Fri 20 Jan 2012 01:52:03
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | Then by imposing that ridiculous deadline the TP helped him do it. |
Fri 20 Jan 2012 09:46:12
Fri 20 Jan 2012 01:00:42
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT/Keystone |
| Message | Tell me WRT, do you think it's a good idea to give a permit to a guaranteed political hot potato that has no documentation? There's a guy selling the Coronado Bridge real cheap that has a deal for you. |
Fri 20 Jan 2012 12:52:05
| Name : | df |
| Email : | a newly discovered lost Peter Paul & Mary song |
| Message | ""OBI THE BUTT PIRATE"??" lived by the sea, blah blah blahhh blah blah. Who cares, what the rest of the words, are anyway, ""OBI THE BUTT PIRATE"??" etc. |
Fri 20 Jan 2012 12:39:17
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT gets shifty |
| Message | "I don't think, however, that I ever said he didn't say it. Only that I never heard him say it. And that I can find no credible evidence, despite combing the internet, of him EVER saying it." Well this is better than your usual flat out calling us liars. Come clean with us WRT. You are just embarrassed to admit that in real life you're a politician or some other type of huckster. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 08:46:45
| Name : | big pirate |
| Email : | Henry |
| Message | Would this be "OBI THE BUTT PIRATE" ?? |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 04:27:38
| Name : | Obi the pirate |
| Email : | piracy legislation |
| Message | I guess there is a brouhaha now about some legislation to combat piracy in the media. I don't know nuttin about it.. but just on the surface of it.. I don't like the sound of it. It sounds like some people don't like ME pirating movies and software off the internet. I'm PRO piracy. I would think all the "Dems" would be with me on this. I mean, it's freedom of expression, speech, etc. If burning the American Flag is ok.. why not exchanging media between friends. The crux of the matter.. as I understood it is... movie makers and other media makers only license an individual's use.. the license to the media does not give him the purchaser of the media the legal right to give/share the media with someone else. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 02:23:43
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Tea Partiers are "goons"?? Then you must believe the original Tea Partiers were goons too. I guess that would have made you a "Loyalist" (to the Crown)... you lost then, you be gonna lose AGAIN!!!... you PUTZ!! I ain't gettin me no avocados, am I... :-( |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 11:46:37
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "Are you now trying to pretend that several conservative on this board didn't call you out over trying to claim that Flush Limbaugh didn't ever say "Obama is out to get whitey". No, I'll go along with the singular. I don't think, however, that I ever said he didn't say it. Only that I never heard him say it. And that I can find no credible evidence, despite combing the internet, of him EVER saying it. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 10:30:40
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | Pipeline |
| Message | I've heard there's already 600,000 miles of similar oil pipeline safely flowing in the US. Obama has clearly given the national interest a back seat by rejecting this construction permit to please the environmentalist whackos in his base. This will come back to bite him in the general. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 09:36:11
Thu 19 Jan 2012 09:32:19
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Keysone/the sky is falling |
| Message | The right wing SD Union today reported on this and pointed out that the project was not "killed" as the "sky is falling" crowd wishes to believe. And why was it delayed? Because they don't even have the changes in the plan down on paper yet! Can you imagine trying to approve a project that hasn't even been documented yet? That is an amazing concept. Interestingly, some are now saying that the southern part and non-controversial part of the work can be started now and the owner of the pipeline company building it says it will still be completed and in use as soon as 2014. The foaming at the mouth crowd on the right could still ruin this thing though. Imagine them forcing a law through Congress mandating approval with out due process or even paperwork! Then the enviros could sue sue over that. And those in the new course of the pipeline also sue on the constitutional basis of not having equal protection under the law. You go guys on the right. You're ending helping the enviros here. Something else for you to screw up so you can lie later and blame someone else. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 09:13:23
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Newt surges, Romney loses in Iowa after all! |
| Message | Apparantly there are polls showing Newt to be ahead of Romney now in SC. And the final results in Iowa show that Santorum beat Romney there. If this rehash of Newt's stuff by a bitter ex doesn't do him in maybe the tea party will survive after all. I suspect that those who view Romney's victory as the beginning of the end for the TP could be right, leaving a lot less to laugh about in politics. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 09:10:12
Thu 19 Jan 2012 09:06:20
Thu 19 Jan 2012 09:04:38
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | Re: The Media and EXs |
| Message | In near future Newt will be eliminated because the left wing media will drag a him thru a sea of muck stirred up by his wife. Of course you'll say if he didn't do it it wouldn't be such a puddle of muck. But there was no October surprise for "Billy BlowJob in the White House" was there? Just saying. The media will choose what it wants to publish. Yet they still have not published a single college paper from POTUS. Two reasons for limited BarrakO background exposure: 1) the media is not/refusing to dig into Obama's background. No plans to damage the one get a tingle in their leg over. 2)the colleges are completely inundated with lefties, that none will search a file cabinet and do a "Daniel Ellsberg" to reveal any of BOs earlier thought patterns. Back to the stuff about the EX. Most background checks (and I've been subject to more than a few, due to my line of work)... Most background investigators will talk to everybody in your past (teachers, coworkers, fellow students, shrinks, etc) except EX spouses. Why? Because what ever ripped the marriage apart left one of the folks bitter. Case in point: The EX MRS Newt. Yup, it will look real bad and this will be the final nail in his coffin for his run at pres. Bottom line: Ask me about my EX: I'll say she was good at transporting the kids to school, activities and appointments. Nothing else good to say. |
Thu 19 Jan 2012 08:54:29
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Are you now trying to pretend that several conservative on this board didn't call you out over trying to claim that Flush Limbaugh didn't ever say "Obama is out to get whitey", let alone the hundreds of times he has said that? That one lady, here, even called you a lying twerp. LOL. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 11:44:22
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "Maybe the best was WRT trying all his little debate tricks to try to claim Flush Limbaugh never said that “Obama is out to get Whitey”. Something I personally heard Flush Limbaugh say hundreds of times so he must have said it a thousand or more times" If you've heard this hundreds of times in the relatively short time Obama's been on the scene, I can only surmise that you must be picking it up subliminally through Rush's theme song and bumper music. Maybe if me and the rest of the world don aluminum foil hats we'll finally be able to hear him say it, too! |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 11:37:07
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "WRT incredibly tries to deny that the Tea Party ever shouted speakers down" If shouting between a speaker's statements at a town hall meeting and then quieting down so he can continue is what you mean by "shouting down" then I'll go along with the Tea Party doing that. If "shouting down" means overwhelming a speaker with shouts until he has to leave the stage without finishing his speech...then I don't. A few months ago I gave a half dozen examples, with links provided, of that kind of shouting down being done by the left. I asked you for like examples of the Tea Party chasing away speakers, and you gave none. Do you have any now? |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 11:24:23
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "Some parts of the right really did get caught trying to legalize lying in the Canadian media" You call it legalizing lying. I call it freedom of the press. Something we know you're against. You illustrated that further by supporting BW when he said we wouldn't need the Bill of Rights if more people obeyed the Ten Commandments. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 11:18:47
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "Paul Revere warning the British …WRT argued that this was true. You have to be really a sorehead not to laugh at that" I guess your memory is starting to slip. Don't you remember when I made these two posts last year? "Here's some excerpts from an NPR interview of Robert Allison (Chairman, History Department, Suffolk University) hosted by Melissa Block. BLOCK: And let's review Paul Revere's midnight ride, April 18, 1775. He's going to Lexington, Massachusetts. And according to Sarah Palin, he's riding his horse through town sending warning shots and ringing those bells. True? Prof. ALLISON: Well, he's not firing warning shots. He is telling people so that they can ring bells to alert others...Revere isn't trying to alert the British, but he is trying to warn them. And in April of 1775, no one was talking about independence. We're still part of the British Empire. We're trying to save it. So this is a warning to the British Empire what will happen if you provoke Americans. BLOCK: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right? Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did. And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history." You can see the whole interview at... http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere?ft=1&f=2 And more experts. These excerpts are from the Boston Herald... In fact, Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.” Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.” Patrick Leehey of the Paul Revere House said Revere was probably bluffing his British captors, but reluctantly conceded that it could be construed as Revere warning the British. “I suppose you could say that,” Leehey said. “But I don’t know if that’s really what Mrs. Palin was referring to.” Cornell law professor William Jacobson, who asserted last week that Palin was correct, said Palin’s critics are the ones in need of a history lesson. “It seems to be a historical fact that this happened,” he said. “A lot of the criticism is unfair and made by people who are themselves ignorant of history.” Of course we all know his main objective was to alert the colonists, but it looks like me and Sarah are in pretty good company. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 10:46:06
Wed 18 Jan 2012 08:27:54
Wed 18 Jan 2012 08:10:52
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | So, you just assume that I'm a far right,neo-conservative who is against all social programs. I certainly lean right but not to that extent. Falwell is a kook. Perry is a kook. Paul is a kook. Gingrich is a very mad person who may very well cost the republicans the election as he cannot beat Obama. Hell, he couldn't beat Biden. He's not likeable. Yes, I'm scared too. I'm terrified that Obama will get a Supreme Court nomination and we will get another way-out liberal and this country will change for the worst and never recover. Over the years I've criticized politicians of BOTH parties over and over and over. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 05:35:51
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW/df/rw |
| Message | PAW what Dave and I wrote is pretty much what we feel. You guys really "SCARE" us. To be fair and balanced you and the others on here are probably the nicest people in the world and every one of you would be a very good neighbor. BUT the real leadership of the right wing don't have a caring bone in their body. Guys like Pat Roberson, the dead Jerry Falwell, Jim Demint-brain dead Palin, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheny, the KOCH brothers. Guys like Mitt Romney, John McCain, all 3 bushes, John Huntsman, Ronald Reagan do not. They may be conservative but they are not ideologues. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 05:16:38
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | Bob flies off the handle occasionally. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 04:07:02
| Name : | RW |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | WHOA!! EASE UP A LITTLE, YOUR GOING TO HAVE A HART ATTACK !!!!! |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 03:42:43
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | NO but you dead headed right wingers who support todays American form of Nazism (republican party so there is no confusion of who I mean) the same sheep who fawned over good ol right wing Adoplh who will get rid of all the scum inheriting the homeland and blame other people (JEWS for instance) for all the wrong in their country. Yeh that fits you guys pretty good. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 02:36:16
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Keysone delayed by lack of actual plan |
| Message | That Keystone Pipeline project is being delayed. The news says The State Dept. &/or Obama has said they have to come up with their paperwork and an actual plan of where the actual line will go in order to have a permit approved. No plan no permit so to speak. You may recall me saying that I figured it would take a year maybe to gin up a new route and paper work and have those public inputs. This delay can be traced directly to the original vetting process failing to note the importance of that aquifer and the resulting public outcry. I further suggest that since this appears to be a good project in general that it will still go forward in a timely and proper way anyway. One interesting thing though is that some are now suggesting that most of the product that will go through that line is actually destined for other countries, not the US as alleged by many. Also some non-involved parties are suggesting that it will generate 6,000 sorely needed jobs not the 20,000 or whatever some supporters claim. Get ready for the extremist right to spread all their usual distortions ala Mr. Levin's recent bs about death panel-esque treatment of neurological problems in the elderly. Not only does this project face environmentalist opposition but also inept counter-productive political actions from the right. It would be ironic and sad if the extremist right somehow derails the eventual building of this line, out of their bizarre obsession with hurting Obama at all costs, if it still turns out to be a good idea. Their ridiculous short time frame imposed on this current part of the process didn’t help move this forward and hopefully hasn’t damaged it more. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 01:47:05
| Name : | vic '64 |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | "You actually fought for our freedoms". Vietnam? You have got to be kidding! The domino theory? Debunked long ago. I was there pal. Somebody get this guy a 'truthful' history book. That war drug on because of ego and money. Defending the South Vietnamese? The powers that were wanted our money and were very corrupt!Gulf of Tonkin? right! Nothing like being in the soup to find out it stinks! That war was directed by politicians. You know, the guys who ran the show but wouldn't actually be in it! Cheney, four deferrments. Bush II--figure that one out for yourself! Those two didn't run that show--they're turn came later. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 01:36:56
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | The right claims to be for individual freedom but, and that's a big butt, wants to butt into women's personal lives, butt into peoples family planning, butt into science they know nothing about, butt in to medical research they also know nothing about, butt into helping kids,etc. voting rights by not providing places for them to vote, butt into every one's voting rights they think won't vote for them by negating their votes through gerrymandering, butt into people's lives by denying them the pursuit of happiness according to Ron Paul, butt into people's lives by keeping the government from saving auto makers, and 2,000,000 jobs, from bankruptcy and becoming very profitable now, just because they might vote democratic, butt into history because it doesn't support some of their shallowness and ignorance, this list of the right's shabby hypocrisy could go on forever! Butt they're not Nazi's. And this certainly isn't all of them and most will eventually see through this all, hopefully. The extremist part of their propaganda machine is trying Nazism and Communism's big lie techniques, though. And Murdoch's dirty trick's, too etc. And the Canadians don't seem to want them doing it up there too. You'll note moderates support none of this foolishness and the left has other ways they butt in. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 01:00:36
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Thanks for bringing this stuff up some more WRT |
| Message | Paul Revere warning the British …….. WRT argued that this was true. You have to be really a sorehead not to laugh at that. He probably thought those guys that got caught trying to put a fake entry into Wikipedia to back this pathetic bs were justified and clever somehow, too. You know history is actually wrong, WRT’s ilk just had to straighten things out a little. Some parts of the right really did get caught trying to legalize lying in the Canadian media. Its lots of fun to see how people react when they learn this. They almost universally laugh and say “yeah that’s Fox and those guys on the right nowadays.” WRT claims it’s all about freedom of the press, but it seems most Canadians, and it is their country, consider it freedom from hate and lies on the radio traffic report during their commutes. WRT incredibly tries to deny that the Tea Party ever shouted speakers down. It was their main thing and claim to fame there for while and he’s just wishes it wasn’t so. LOL. Maybe the best was WRT trying all his little debate tricks to try to claim Flush Limbaugh never said that “Obama is out to get Whitey”. Something I personally heard Flush Limbaugh say hundreds of times so he must have said it a thousand or more times. Other conservatives on this board, who also heard Flush Limbaugh say this and with more honesty, intelligence, in probably in the spirit of progress, and opposed to Flush Limbaugh’s obvious racism unfairly tainting them somehow, called him out finally. One lady even called him a lying twerp, which I think is unfair because he is probably just an extreme case of believing whatever his heart wishes is true. Still very funny though. And without free speech we would have missed all these laughs ........... Take that Canada! Again WRT …….. Thanks for bringing up this “highlight film” of some of your greatest moments. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 12:17:28
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | From PAW |
| Message | Bob, please don't equate Hitler's Nazi Party with conservatives today in this country. Hitler was a facist. He wanted to control everything. American conservatives want LESS government intrusions in our lives. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 12:12:33
| Name : | To ns |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | That's interesting ns, that you made that statement tounge-in-cheek. I'm embarassed that I didn't pick it up. I remember thinking how it was out of character for you. I've mentioned this a few times over the years; there are no facial expressions or voice inflections here and therefore everything is taken at face value. Maybe you should have been required to put one of those little laughing faces at the end of your comment. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 12:04:39
| Name : | df |
| Email : | letter to Iran |
| Message | this is old news. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 11:20:38
Wed 18 Jan 2012 10:55:41
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | ns |
| Message | To help get you caught up...there's a handful of tired, flawed, lame-assed arguments that df can never let go of. Things like legalized lying in Canada, Paul Revere warning the British, the Tea Party shouting down speakers, Obama out to get whitey. He thinks, by themselves, they prove all conservatives are liars, stupid, disruptive and racists. Anytime a topic even remotely reminds him of one of these talking points, he foolishly parades them out as if they're powerful and fresh. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 10:16:02
Wed 18 Jan 2012 09:04:52
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | "Canada has had many conservative governments in my lifetime and every one of them has stood by the concept if it is lying don't bring it here." Why would ANY government, left or right, take away their own ability to squelch the opposition by calling what they print lies? |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 08:54:07
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | I'm glad I didn't misrepresent you. You've confirmed that you, too, are an admirer of Canada's lack of freedom of the press. Two frogs in the pot. Your ignorance is so much sadder than df's. You actually fought for our freedoms, but are still clueless about what they mean. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 07:41:24
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | It is legalized lying even if it is lying. Canada has had many conservative governments in my lifetime and every one of them has stood by the concept if it is lying don't bring it here. Henry has called himself the biggest A-hole. I bet if Rupert tried to put that on Canadian airwaves it would be accepted as the TRUTH. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 07:34:57
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Almost every one here knows little about the world before WW2. A guy named Hitler (a right winger in the purist sense) and his propaganda machine led by Goebbles through the complete riddance of any press except what Goebbels put out helped lead the world to that war. Now you have those filthy LIARS, limburger-beck who wouldn't or maybe couldn't tell you the truth if their lives depended on it spouting their fallacious spittle and millions of gullible righties are believing it be the TRUTH. If you want what a STATE would look like run by the Mormon Church just look at what Beck brings to the table. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 07:28:04
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I'm amazed. You call yourself smart, but you STILL don't understand what freedom of the press is. You call it legalized lying. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 07:20:37
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | You think it's funny that people from the right tried to establish freedom of the press in Canada? |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 06:57:37
| Name : | df |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | "I get a "duh" from a guy that envies Canada's lack of freedom of the press?" No ...... you get a duh for misrepresenting my position on this issue. Try reading my just posted positions on this subject. I do find it really funny though that the right got caught trying to LEGALIZE LYING in the Canadian media. LOL. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 06:43:24
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Duh? I get a "duh" from a guy that envies Canada's lack of freedom of the press? Wise men say the stripping of our liberties could be gradual like a frog in a pot of water under a low flame. Before he realizes anything is happening, he's cooked. Libs like you and BW could be pitched in the water at a full boil, you'd spend your last few seconds playing Marco Polo. |
Wed 18 Jan 2012 12:09:18
Tue 17 Jan 2012 11:59:21
| Name : | DF |
| Email : | duh |
| Message | "It's certainly good to see you finally acknowledge the value of our unbridled right to freedom of the press, even if you did do it in such a back-handed way. A better way might be to say our Right protects us from the government banning any truths it may find unflattering, by calling them lies." You are coming late to the party and claiming you were here early dude. Americans have been struggling with making this stuff work for a couple centuries and you guys show up 10 minutes ago and think you invented and own it all. New guys in town calling themselves locals from the old days! |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 11:48:00
Tue 17 Jan 2012 11:20:32
Tue 17 Jan 2012 11:11:33
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "...those who are gullible can just believe whatever their little hearts desire." Hey! That's EXACTLY how we got saddled with this man-caused global warming hoax! "...stuff like this Levin thing this is what's behind the Canadian rules about lying in the media. We'll never go to that way here though. We have a long cherished tradition of lying in the media. It's kind of a listener beware thing I guess..." It's certainly good to see you finally acknowledge the value of our unbridled right to freedom of the press, even if you did do it in such a back-handed way. A better way might be to say our Right protects us from the government banning any truths it may find unflattering, by calling them lies. |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 10:49:21
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | "So us gullible people with "little hearts" should be ok" Sorry Obi it just a figure of speech. I realize you're just BIG hearted softy. LOL. |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 05:01:07
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | Wait a minute here |
| Message | Did Levin lie or did he get bad info from a member of his research staff? We don't know do we? Even if he lied and it can be proven that would not be a reason to say no more freedom of the press. The last thing we need is someone in government telling us what we can and can't say. Politicians lie on a daily basis as do all the entertainers like Limbaugh and all the others both conservative and liberal. |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 03:57:10
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli poo |
| Email : | Davey poo |
| Message | Ya know.. everybody calls me an a-hole name caller... but, If I call someone a "dufus".. and YOU describe someone as a "dufus".. ain't that the same dang thing?... think about it. If you think about it, you're a bigger "name caller" then me. I ain't gettin no more avocados, am I... rum n coke #2 |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 03:48:38
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | QUOTE: "I guess and those who are gullible can just believe whatever their little hearts desire." But... but, we have YOU brainiacs to tell us what we should be believe. So us gullible people with "little hearts" should be ok.. as long as you BIG hearted, smart people will show us the way. I ain't gettin no more avocados, am I... |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 01:20:52
Tue 17 Jan 2012 12:59:25
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | |
| Message | change "keep" to "quit" |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 12:39:21
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | df |
| Message | If Marc Levin doesn't keep spouting off like this we're just gonna have to do away with this whole freedom of the press thingy. |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 07:25:37
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Neurological ‘Death Panels’? |
| Message | Q: Does Obama plan to deny emergency brain surgery for patients over 70? A: No. A man claiming on a radio talk show to be a brain surgeon lied about that, and about a meeting of two associations of neurological surgeons, those associations say. From the Mark Levin Show, a nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show, on Nov. 22, 2011. A caller, who is identified only as “Jeff” from Chicago on the show, says that he is a brain surgeon and that the Department of Health and Human Services had issued a document saying patients over age 70 should receive “comfort care,” instead of neurological surgery. He says this is “absolutely” like the “death panels” that Sarah Palin had claimed would be part of the federal health care law. Jeff (the caller): Basically, what the document stated was, if you’re over 70 and you’d come into an emergency room and you’re on government-supported health care that you get comfort care. Levin: What a minute. … What document and … what’s the source for this? Jeff: This is the Obama’s new health care plan for advanced neurosurgical care. Levin: And who issued this, HHS? Jeff: Yes, and basically they don’t call them patients, they call them units. And instead of, they call it ethics panels or ethics committees would get together and meet and decide where the money would go for hospitals. And basically for patients over 70 years of age that advanced neurosurgical care was not generally indicated. Levin: So, it’s generally going to be denied? Jeff: Yes, absolutely. “Jeff” said that this document wasn’t public and that he had discussed it in Washington, D.C., at a seminar of the AANS and CNS — that’s the American Association of Neurological Surgeons and the Congress of Neurological Surgeons. But the AANS and CNS issued a statement on Nov. 28, and updated it on Jan. 3, saying they aren’t aware of any such federal document, and there was no session discussing anything of the sort at the recent CNS meeting. The updated statement said the caller “is not actually a neurosurgeon.” AANS and CNS statement: The AANS and CNS are unaware of any federal government document directing that advanced neurosurgery for patients over 70 years of age will not be indicated and only supportive care treatment will be provided. Furthermore, in conducting our own due diligence, the caller who identified himself as a brain surgeon is not actually a neurosurgeon, nor was there any session at the recent Congress of Neurological Surgeons’ scientific meeting in Washington, DC at which a purported government document calling for the rationing of neurosurgical care was discussed. Alison Dye, a spokeswoman for the groups, told us that they know who the caller is and that he is not a brain surgeon or a neurosurgeon. “One of our neurosurgeons knows who he is, and they had a conversation,” she said. AANS/CNS declined to give the full name of “Jeff,” the caller, saying that he had asked the groups not to identify him. Dye did say he was in the medical field but was not registered at a recent CNS meeting in Washington, D.C., since he isn’t a neurosurgeon and isn’t part of the organization. She agreed to pass along a message to both “Jeff” and the neurosurgeon who knows him, telling them that we would like to speak with them. The Department of Health and Human Services. Erin Shields, director of communications for health care, said: “These false claims were simply made up by an anonymous call to a radio station. No such document exists and no such presentation took place. And, the American Association of Neurological Surgeons and the Congress of Neurological Surgeons have both gone on the record to denounce these false rumors as well.” After Levin ended his conservation with “Jeff,” he told another caller that the supposed brain surgeon “was vetted by us. We know he is who he said he is.” The AANS and CNS repeatedly have asked the show to remove that episode of the podcast from the website, but so far, that has not happened. The groups said: “Neurosurgeons are committed to providing timely, compassionate, and state of the art treatment for all patients — regardless of age — who have neurosurgical conditions. As such, we have requested numerous times that this podcast be removed from Mark Levin’s website as it portrays inaccurate information which could potentially be harmful to the patients that we serve.” When Levin asked, “So Sarah Palin was right, we’re going to have these death panels?,” “Jeff” responded, “Oh, absolutely.” He then made a reference to Nazi Germany, saying: “I’m German by heritage, and I’ve read ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,’ and basically … they don’t call them patients, they call them units, and if you’re a unit above a certain age, you get comfort care instead of advanced neurosurgical intervention.” He also talked about being in training for 10 years and doing surgery on patients at 2 in the morning. He claimed one of his former partners was “head of the Congress of Neurosurgeons.” Again, the CNS says he’s not part of that group and not a neurosurgeon. We asked if there was any document about neurosurgery and patients over 70 that this caller could be exaggerating or misconstruing, but the spokeswoman told us the neurological groups have no idea what “Jeff” is talking about. Various sources for this: YouTube.com. Neurosurgeon calls Mark Levin about Obamacare. 23 Nov 2011. American Association of Neurological Surgeons and the Congress of Neurological Surgeons. Press release. 3 Jan 2012. The Mark Levin Show. Podcast. 22 Nov 2011. Dye, Alison, spokeswoman, American Association of Neurological Surgeons/Congress of Neurological Surgeons. Phone interview with FactCheck.org. 4 Jan 2012. Shields, Erin, director of communications for health care, Department of Health and Human Services. |
Tue 17 Jan 2012 07:25:15
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Be afraid, very afraid. |
| Message | Of right wing radio lies, that is. Following this post an analysis of fear mongering on the Mark Levin Show. |
Mon 16 Jan 2012 11:02:06
Mon 16 Jan 2012 09:36:43
Mon 16 Jan 2012 09:28:58
| Name : | vic '64 |
| Email : | obi |
| Message | I'm just the opposite. My father is mexican(last name Martinez) raised in the Barrio in LA. He was definitely brown. My mother--Irish. Hemmingway from the same stuff. I came out looking Irish. One brother looks mexican--the rest white. I have been asked for ID when using a credit card. They look at me and then look at the name--Victor D. Martinez. The one time the name helped was when I was in jail (county-four months at George Bailey). I was being harrased by some 'anglos'. One anglo chose me out. I was about to get into a fight. There was a tap on my shoulder. When I turned around it was a very large Mexican. He told me to go sit down. About that time I was called to see the psych. When I came back I saw the fuck who chose me out sitting on his bunk crying. He came up to me to say he was sorry. He wanted to shake hands. Not a chance! I found out later that the big mexican had bitch slapped him a few times. The big Mex knew my name. Needless to say I was not bothered anymore. One thing seems to be true--Mexicans respect their elders. I turned 50 while at George Bailey--they threw me a party. Got some stores together and made me a 'cake'! |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 09:49:24
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | It is, officially, the Medal of Honor but the citation reads "in the name of Congress". |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 08:35:17
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | CMOH Congressional Medal Of Honor. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 07:40:23
| Name : | ? |
| Email : | Ralph/df |
| Message | What is a CMOH?? Since when did congress issue the medal of honor?? |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 06:20:31
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | |
| Message | I guess I wasted my time asking df where his job numbers came from. I should know by now he's his own source. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 05:30:39
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | And.. what do you know about "Paul Revere"??... is it possible that you "read" it?.. or were you there? What do we know about history that we don't read?? is it a matter of interpretation of what we read? You read something.. someone else reads some thing.. but what YOU read is "gospel". Annoying, ain't I... LOL By the way... "df", have I told you lately that I lubs you? I do. I'm not gettin any avocados any time soon, am I. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 05:21:10
Sun 15 Jan 2012 05:15:00
Sun 15 Jan 2012 04:03:12
Sun 15 Jan 2012 02:10:12
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | |
| Message | Thanks to WRT (and Ralph) for "fact checking".. the sheep only parrot. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 02:00:26
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | Joe |
| Message | Thanks for the link to the website. But isn't "Big Brother" the government? This isn't from the government. It's from information we willingly gave to private entities. I just wish the creeps didn't share it so readily. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 01:16:10
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli.. aka your pappy |
| Email : | BW.. aka "whitey" |
| Message | LOL... yeah, I've heard that before. Messicans call me a "coconut".. brown on the outside and white on the inside. The only thing I care about is being AMERICAN... and I get my "rocks off" defending "whitey"... why?.. cuz whitey has to be politically correct and you cant defend yourself.. AND I DON'T HAVE TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT! |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 01:11:23
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | Henry |
| Message | Henry William You aint no real Messican. You are English!!! |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 12:50:44
Sun 15 Jan 2012 12:39:23
Sun 15 Jan 2012 12:37:25
| Name : | Joe |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | Your Welcome......you are right about the accuracy. I found some error's at my address, but still, I really don't want my address, phone number, and who is living at my house posted on the internet... |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 12:17:12
Sun 15 Jan 2012 12:00:39
Sun 15 Jan 2012 11:05:48
| Name : | Joe |
| Email : | Big Brother is watching!! |
Message | This thing actually works. It takes a few seconds to warm up and it's fairly acurate. We can run, but we can't hide! Give this a try to see who your neighbors are This is interesting. There are maps of your neighborhood and they show the names of the people in every house. Check it out! Go to website: http://neighbors.whitepages.com Enter your address, and up comes a map of your area...and a list of all neighbors and their phone numbers! |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 10:31:35
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df/WRT |
| Message | hmmm.. could it be that the US Census exercise finally completed and all the census workers went back to McDonalds?? |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 10:19:11
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | "In the last year or so there have been a net loss of over two million government jobs and a net gain of a large amount of private sector jobs, although I don’t have the exact number of those private sector jobs at my finger tips. It must be larger than the number of government jobs lost though because the number of employed has risen in the same period." What's your source for these figures? I'm sure we'd all like to read them for ourselves. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 09:51:36
Sun 15 Jan 2012 08:48:32
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Ralph, et. al. |
| Message | “Just read some info about a Col. Robert Howard, who is referred to as the most decorated war veteran of the modern era. He was nominated 3 times for the CMOH for three different combat actions. A person can receive only one CMOH, so that is what he has among all his other commendations, including at least 14 purple hearts.” I just had to quote the whole comment here because it bears repeating a lot!!! For those who believe in God, etc., God bless this man, Col. Robert Howard. For the rest or you, you should give thanks for this man in whatever way you can. |
Sun 15 Jan 2012 08:41:25
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | “Just tonight on the news I heard that 1.6 million jobs have been lost since Obama became president.” In the last year or so there have been a net loss of over two million government jobs and a net gain of a large amount of private sector jobs, although I don’t have the exact number of those private sector jobs at my finger tips. It must be larger than the number of government jobs lost though because the number of employed has risen in the same period. “Please don't come back too hard on me as I can dish it out but can't take it and I'll just have to push my religeon on you.” LOL ....... This is one of the best closing sentences I have seen here. Kudos. Did I spell kudos right? Anyway excellent. |
Sat 14 Jan 2012 09:39:57
Sat 14 Jan 2012 09:34:58
Sat 14 Jan 2012 09:28:04
| Name : | vic '64 |
| Email : | obi and henry |
| Message | Afraid that you are bullying me? You have got to be kidding! That's why we have discussions--we both have not been where the other has. Marty? Now I am laughing twice as hard. By the way, have you ever killed anyone? Not to one up just different views from where we have been. Atheist? Now I know a little more about you. That is a good thing. I will try hard not to take your inventory. Giving resentments instead of receiving them? Works for me. PS--bringing religion into this is probably not a good idea. Instead of picking apart what the other has said--we both may learn something if we both would just listen. Notice I said we. |
Sat 14 Jan 2012 09:08:43
| Name : | Salt & Pepper |
| Email : | Just Pissed-That's All? |
| Message | Our enemies parade our uniformed men's bodies through their streets, even dragging some and severing heads with crowds cheering them on. A little piss should have had a complement of vinegar. |
Sat 14 Jan 2012 08:34:19
Sat 14 Jan 2012 10:13:46
| Name : | To ns and BW |
| Email : | From PAW |
| Message | NICE! |
Sat 14 Jan 2012 09:32:41
Sat 14 Jan 2012 06:26:39
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | Some pissed on Taliban |
| Message | I'm guessing about 1 million US service men have been to that general part of the world in the last 10 years. 5 guys messed up - bigtime. Pick out 1 million college students and look at their face book pages. My guess is a few more than 5 F-ups there. Hell, if you looked at the facebook pages of MVHS Alumni you see more than 5 F-ups - just kidding. Did you ever notice the folks that are condemning the US Military, in general, are the same ones that will jump all over your opinion when you say something in general like "Fuckin Ragheads aren't to be trusted". Sure there have been other atrocities by the US Military (Mai Lai) but over all the most disciplined, compassionate warriors ever to walk the Earth. I'm proud these brave men are in service to my country. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 10:18:15
Fri 13 Jan 2012 06:24:56
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | I also tend to agree with you that Romney will not be as conservative as some believe if he is elected and if he gets a second term he will he will go farther left but to the right of Obama. As far as that loss of jobs and debt increase go I do not entirely blame Obama. Neither party seems to be concerned enough to suit me. Please don't come back too hard on me as I can dish it out but can't take it and I'll just have to push my religeon on you. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 06:16:49
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | I see nothing wrong with the "be afraid, be very afraid" quote that you tend to mock. I'm one of those very afraid people. Just tonight on the news I heard that 1.6 million jobs have been lost since Obama became president. Also, the national debt has increased by 43% in that period. I agree with ns in that Obama will go hard left if he doesn't have to fear reelection. And my biggest fear is that Obama will get to make a Supreme Court nomination. I do agree with some of your recent posts though. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 05:58:40
Fri 13 Jan 2012 05:31:18
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Mitt Romney.. a friggen Messican?? |
| Message | Ok.. I'm laying on the couch, watching Fox News.. and minding my own business. And Fox News is reporting that "Mitt Romney" has some Messican heritage.... LOL MY GOD!!!... SOMEONE KILL HIM!!! |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 04:22:27
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Ralph |
| Message | Ralph: "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Henry: "power corrupts and absolute power absolutely corrupts. Yep, I get it Ralph... LOL |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 04:18:12
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | Henry, The message IS different. Read the two quotes and you should see the difference. Maybe. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 03:23:36
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Ralph |
| Message | Thank you for the EXACT quote.. that makes a WORLD of difference.. LOL Actually, I really do like you correcting me, in spite of my posturing.. I really like your yang to my ying... I need a foil.. it makes me happy. Thank you Ralph. xoxo |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 03:18:11
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Ralph |
| Message | OH.. I think I know what you mean. It took me a few seconds.. my defenses are always UP when you post to me. The "power quote" may not have been precisely accurate... but it doesn't matter.. I think it certainly conveyed the IDENTICAL message. Only YOU are wrapped around the axel with minutia. It's your thing. You want to appear smarter then you really are.. I get it... GRASSHOPPAH!! |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 03:14:36
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | Henry, The correct quote is "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 03:07:00
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Ralph |
| Message | I'm thinkin "generally" is a hedge on your part. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 03:05:01
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Ralph |
| Message | QUOTE: "Generally, when you use the "power" quote you get it wrong as you have done in this case." 'esplain please.. elaborate, enunciate, equivocate.. or what ever 'ate" applies. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 02:59:09
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | Henry, Generally, when you use the "power" quote you get it wrong as you have done in this case. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 01:13:26
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli.. aka your pappy |
| Email : | grasshoppahs |
| Message | Regarding my post below... I submit to you the "Stanford Experiment" to support my theory.... |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 01:08:54
Fri 13 Jan 2012 12:20:56
Fri 13 Jan 2012 11:56:28
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Vic '64 |
| Message | You can have an inside track to God, just like me. Just dial 777... and Mr. Big will answer, if he thinks your worthy. By the way.. I have done gone places you have never gone. But you don't want to go to those places.. trust Obi-Juan-Bologna on that. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 11:31:09
Fri 13 Jan 2012 11:05:14
| Name : | To Vic |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | You say Henry and I believe that we "have the inside track to God?" Do you read Henry's and my posts? Maybe you just don't understand English. That is an absolutely preposturous accusation. Also, I agree with Henry, you relish in playing the martyr role. Yu and "hey Dave" would make a good pair. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 10:35:28
| Name : | d |
| Email : | |
| Message | WRY IS SEEING DOUBLE AGAIN. WRT IS SEEING DOUBLE AGAIN. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 09:52:48
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I thought everyone knew candidates shift to the middle once they become nominees. It's as obvious as your far left status. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 09:52:48
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I thought everyone knew candidates shift to the middle once they become nominees. It's as obvious as your far left status. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 06:28:28
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Your last sentence "a liberal forced to the right". With no further elections to worry about a re-elected Obama would take 3 giant steps to the left. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 12:17:32
| Name : | df |
| Email : | moderates rule! |
| Message | Really this presidential election is shaping up pretty good for us moderates. the repubs look to pick guy who is certain to move way to the middle from his party's right. If Obama gets it, with a repub congress, the gov still stays towards the middle. It's a liberal republican or a democrat forced to the right. What a deal for us. |
Fri 13 Jan 2012 12:08:32
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Romney |
| Message | You guys that think Romney will move to the right for real are kidding yourselves. He will have no reason to go right. Are you trying to forget that the right wing stuff is "unelectable"? He'll figure the way to re-election is the other way. Wait till he's in there. Republican libs are famous for claiming to be righties and then "compromising" with the liberals. The examples are legion. Remember "Read my lips, no new taxes". Classic. LOL |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 10:42:00
Thu 12 Jan 2012 06:22:05
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Vic '64 |
| Message | Geeeze.. Vic, do you really want to play the martyr card?... big bad, mean PAW and Henry are picking on lil old you? QUOTE: "I know, you guy's have the inside track to God." Dufus.. I'M AN ATHEIST!!! (actually, something between an agnostic and a fatalist) QUOTE: "if you are never wrong no need for another lesson." We are just Mariners (people) with a different view/opinion. QUOTE: "DON'T CHASTISE PEOPLE FOR BEING WHERE YOU HAVE NEVER GONE!" I have no idear what you meant by that... where have you gone? |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 05:45:12
Thu 12 Jan 2012 05:28:53
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Ain't it kind funny.. or weird.. that most conservative Republicans don't want "Mitt"? The guy has been vetted in two elections.. he's (so far) clean as a whistle. He's moral, handsome, tall, a conservative (except to some)... he looks and acts presidential.. the guy has it all. His only baggage is his health care program... and he has admitted that he learned his lesson (in so many words). And yet WE republicans are still looking for a more conservative presidential candidate. And the thing is.. we have a tea party/conservative congress. The people that view Mitt as too moderate should remember, that Mitt cant be the moderate that some think he will be, because of our conservative ( tea party) congress. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 04:45:11
Thu 12 Jan 2012 02:52:06
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | Big Money Wins |
| Message | POTUS has $86 million at this point. Does that qualify as BIG money? |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 01:36:59
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | df, Your mom and I are kindred spirits in that regard. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 09:05:57
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Ralph & Obi |
| Message | "It was just this morning that I cut open one of those avocados mixed in a little bit of mayonnaise added a little bit of hot sauce and had a tasty treat. mmmmmm" Thanks Ralph, That's my mom's favorite way of eating avocados. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 08:56:47
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | df, It was just this morning that I cut open one of those avocados mixed in a little bit of mayonnaise added a little bit of hot sauce and had a tasty treat. mmmmmm Thanks df. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 08:45:29
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | df |
| Message | Money wins. Big money even wins easier. And REAL BIG money wins almost all the time. Even Virtue wins occasionally. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 08:28:21
Thu 12 Jan 2012 08:25:02
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Ralph |
| Message | Kindly explain to Obi, over and over, how good and tasty and how much guac those two avos made so he can see the virtues of virtue. LOL. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 08:22:17
| Name : | df |
| Email : | that debate |
| Message | I thought it was more or less the job of those moderaters to try to put the debaters on the spot. Like it or not. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 08:18:33
| Name : | df |
| Email : | defn. of greed |
| Message | That definition came from Merriam-Webster's Dictionary. Sometimes it's interesting to read the dictionary a little even if some will suggest that it's a pretty dry read. |
Thu 12 Jan 2012 06:05:21
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | In YOUR case ONE avocado as opposed to Ralph's TWO. LOL |
Wed 11 Jan 2012 05:51:20
| Name : | To BW |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | I guess that I would have to agree with you on everything except the Jeb Bush part. Now way will a person named bush beat Obama. |
Wed 11 Jan 2012 05:13:10
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | GREAT avocados... thank you, thank you.... |
Wed 11 Jan 2012 05:04:00
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | I AM PERPLEXED. RALPH WOULD SAY WHAT'S NEW. I think had not the republicans ran 6 real air head tea partiers in the last election they would have taken control of the Senate. Now I am looking at the republicans literally eating themselves alive during the primaries. Were I the head of the Democrat party Party not Obama) I would be copying everything these guys are saying about each other and use their OWN words and feelings towards each other in the election this fall. I don't think their is anything worse (at least I hope not) that can be dug up and said than what they have said and implied towards each other. It seems to me there is some REAL enmity between Romney-Gingrich-Paul that might not enable the party to coalesce around one candidate. My choice for reconciliation is still a Jeb Bush-Christie uniting the broad base (Jeb) with a true conservative (Chrisite). Of course I am also the one waiting for a full eruption of a religious civil war in Iraq between the Sunnis and Shia. |
Tue 10 Jan 2012 11:55:25
| Name : | To Vic |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Come on Vic, read my post and try to understand it before flying off the handle. I did not accuse you of being a racist. I simply asked if a person was against reparations and the welfare state does that make him/her a racist? I did say that according to DF's definition of greedy we all fit the definition to some degree. No need for you to get so defensive. |
Mon 09 Jan 2012 09:02:38
Mon 09 Jan 2012 05:04:06
| Name : | d |
| Email : | |
| Message | Ernest is my hero |
Mon 09 Jan 2012 03:06:02
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli, your brother |
| Email : | Vic '64 |
| Message | Don't be mean to me, I'm still your brother... I still LUBS you no matter how badly you treat me... Yes, I'll have another "rum n coke"... #3.. and YOU CANT STOP ME... Genesis 20:13 And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said unto her, This [is] thy kindness which thou shalt shew unto me; at every place whither we shall come, say of me, He [is] my brother. |
Mon 09 Jan 2012 12:44:19
Sun 08 Jan 2012 03:32:00
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Yes.. I saw that. I wanted to smack George upside the head.. what an a-hole. I cant believe he actually had an important job in our government at one time. I got sooo pissed at all three moderators.. they were asking questions about contraception.. homosexuality and other crap... Is that what you really want to know about a Presidential candidate?.. really?.. how about foreign policy, the economy.. defense.... That was the WORST moderated debate I have EVER seen. |
Sun 08 Jan 2012 03:16:38
Sun 08 Jan 2012 10:03:35
Sun 08 Jan 2012 09:51:35
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Well, I guess eventually we'll find out if Obamacare and Romneycare were good ideas. In the meantime, as with all subjects, we can only read what's out there and try to form opinions as best we can. Who's to be believed? There's a lot of lying going on out there. |
Sun 08 Jan 2012 07:49:32
| Name : | Ralph |
| Email : | |
| Message | It's very simple. If you want two avocados take two. Not greedy just opportunistic. Besides, two makes more dip. |
Sun 08 Jan 2012 12:30:09
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Glenn Beck |
| Message | Is just plain old dumb! |
Sun 08 Jan 2012 12:28:11
| Name : | df |
| Email : | The Friedman video |
| Message | Interestingly Friedman contradicts himself several times in this video. |
Sun 08 Jan 2012 12:26:30
Sun 08 Jan 2012 12:10:08
| Name : | df |
| Email : | two birds, one stone or avocados as the case may be |
| Message | Looking through those antonyms of all that stuff that characterizes Obi and therefore is the opposite of a decent human being like Ralph I just noticed that that puts Ralph into the category that includes the description "LIBERALITY". This is too good to be true. |
Sun 08 Jan 2012 12:04:34
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | Look what your greed, avarice, avidness, covetousness, graspingness, gluttousness, craving, and lots of other stuff too, got you Obi. ONLY one avocado. Whereas a decent human being like Ralph got two. |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 11:59:14
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | "WHY some are wrong and some are right?" Obi some of those things are really destructive or are part of unhappy lives. |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 11:40:29
| Name : | df |
| Email : | Mass. health care reform |
| Message | from PAW, "Mass. has the highest per capita health care costs in the nation." "If Romneycare isn't a fiscal problem for the state....." Mass. has had higher per capita health costs than average since 1992. In 2004 state spending was 15% higher than the national average. The net added cost to taxpayers of this reform was about 1.2% in 2010. While the average wait time for service has gone up by six days since 2005, the wait for family practice has gone down by 15 days to 29 days now. Wait times for other specialties like cardiology, gastroenterology and orthopedic surgery are down too. And the number of insured has gone substantially up. The wait times and doctor shortage issues far predate the reform. The state’s health secretary, notes that Massachusetts has more doctors per capita, including primary care doctors, than any other state. That’s according to the Association of American Medical Colleges. Even so, the state is taking steps aimed at increasing access to primary care further. These include creating a loan repayment program for doctors agreeing to work in community health centers,etc. Various surveys show 60 to 70% public support for the reform and disapproval ranging downward from 28%. A Harvard study indicated 70% of practicing doctors approved. and the New England Journal of Medicine found that 85% of doctors said the reform had little or positive impact on patient quality of care. |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 07:02:06
| Name : | To Vic |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | You refer to Limbaugh and Beck as biased, racist and greedy. What's the big deal? We are ALL biased, you, me, Obama, Romney, every last one of us. Racist? Just because someone doesn't believe in the welfare state doesn't make them a racist. Is a person a racist because they don't believe in paying reparations to present day black people for past wrongs? Greedy? According to the definition researched by df EVERY last one of us is greedy to some extent. I'm not a fan of Beck or Limbaugh but I certainly don't agree with your points. |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 05:45:49
Sat 07 Jan 2012 05:20:54
| Name : | WRT |
| Email : | Greed |
| Message | "a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed" I think the desire only becomes excessive when you break the law to satisfy it. Once ALL of your decendants are assured a lifetime of wealth, anything you make after that COULD be considered more than you need. Others have different standards, those are mine. |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 04:56:24
Sat 07 Jan 2012 04:31:36
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | I just realized something... Ralph Evans.. the butthead got two avocado's today at the Breakfast Club and I only got ONE!! There is going to be hell to pay!.. this is not over, you big goober!!! |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 04:26:49
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | no mercy |
| Message | I got an avocado today from "df" at the Breakfast Club... I had to take him down to get it, but I did what I had to do. No apologies from me... |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 03:29:23
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | df |
| Message | QUOTE: "by Obi’s way of reckoning, we are all not only racist greedy and biased, we are also charitable, generous, liberal, magnanimous, openhearted, unselfish, and altruistic, etc..." Yep.. I think you're getting it. It's called being human.. you and me are all those things. What makes any of those things wrong.. or right?.. think about that. Ask yourself WHY some are wrong and some are right? You are deciding on human nature... now that we agree on all that.. I say again, WHY are some right and some wrong? |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 03:15:56
| Name : | df |
| Email : | on the other hand |
| Message | Obi seems to be saying that since we all have our various moments that makes us fit the definition of and be greedy, etc. Of course by the same logic, by Obi’s way of reckoning, we are all not only racist greedy and biased, we are also charitable, generous, liberal, magnanimous, openhearted, unselfish, and altruistic, etc... That is excepting those who are truly sociopathic or psychopathic, etc... |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 03:02:56
| Name : | df |
| Email : | from Merriam Websters dictionary |
| Message | Definition of GREED : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed Examples of GREED 1. He was a ruthless businessman, motivated by naked ambition and greed. 2. don't let greed for riches control you Origin of GREED back-formation from greedy First Known Use: 1609 Related to GREED Synonyms: acquisitiveness, avarice, avariciousness, avidity, avidness, covetousness, cupidity, graspingness, greediness, mercenariness, rapaciousness, rapacity Related Words: hoggery; commercialism, materialism, possessiveness; gluttonousness, gluttony, piggishness; appetite, craving, desire, drive, hankering, hunger, itch, longing, lust, passion, pining, ravenousness, thirst, voracity, yearning, yen; egoism, egotism, self-centeredness, self-interest, selfishness, self-regard Near Antonyms: contentment, fulfillment (or fulfilment), gratification, satisfaction; bounteousness, bountifulness, bounty, charity, generosity, generousness, largesse (also largess), liberality, magnanimity, openhandedness, openheartedness, unselfishness; altruism, selflessness |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 02:49:36
| Name : | df |
| Email : | |
| Message | "Romneycare is a fiscal disaster in Mass." Can you support this statement? |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 10:01:18
Sat 07 Jan 2012 08:14:42
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Vic '64 |
| Message | It's not our electorate. It's humans... all humans are racist, biased and greedy... if they are human. How many on this board have prejudice?, Bias? Greed?. All we fight about is our bias and prejudice.. it's called being human. How many on this board have more then they need?.. cars, TVs, food, electrical devices, homes, etc. etc... it's called being human. It's the human condition, you can make anything wrong... it's your choice. But include yourself and the whole human race. |
Sat 07 Jan 2012 01:00:51
| Name : | vic '64 |
| Email : | |
| Message | Obi you are way out. 99% of our electorate? I sure would see those stats. How many rum and coke is that? God bless you. |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 08:01:52
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | Whoops |
| Message | Pretty good. |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 06:56:25
Fri 06 Jan 2012 06:40:13
Fri 06 Jan 2012 05:47:58
Fri 06 Jan 2012 05:24:46
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | "Didn't you forget to mention that Romneycare in Mass. is a disaster" I take it that you are trying to help me suggest that Romney ain't so great. |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 04:57:36
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | Didn't you forget to mention that Romneycare in Mass. is a disaster? |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 04:05:15
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | Vic '64 |
| Message | QUOTE: "that way we can find out how biased, racist, and just plain greedy." HEY.. I'm all those things. biased, racist and greedy!!! Vic, you know.. if you don't like that.. then you don't like 99.99% percent of the people in America.. and the world. Let the person who is not biased, racist and greedy stand up and be counted... go ahead and lie to me. |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 03:58:41
Fri 06 Jan 2012 03:49:48
| Name : | BW;OMG Obama's my guy |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | They got a chad problem in Iowa. Less than 6% of the registered voted this Tuesday and apparently they couldn't even count that correctly. A Paul supporter said that Santorem not Romney won. |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 11:31:29
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | ns |
| Message | ???.. I thought the King of America WOULD be the supreme ruler of the universe? |
Fri 06 Jan 2012 08:39:14
| Name : | ns |
| Email : | King Henry |
| Message | King of America, ha...you set your sites too low. In the next election I'm running for "Supreme Ruler of the Universe." |
Thu 05 Jan 2012 09:35:53
Thu 05 Jan 2012 09:31:11
| Name : | df |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | It was all the items you suggested, and probably more stuff too. The way the money was laundered was by Spanos giving the money to her senate campaign fund. She ran for the senate for a month or so and of course never got over a couple percent in polls then dropped out and kept the money for herself. She had spent very little on her campaign. Even though at the time she was billing herself as the smartest women in San Diego, she was widely known around the state as an arrogant, mean dummy. My impression of her around city hall in those days was that she was so mean and greedy that she would have taken the money from a Salvation Army donation container let alone that 7 mill! |
Thu 05 Jan 2012 07:23:32
| Name : | To df |
| Email : | Fom PAW |
| Message | How about some more info. Why did Golding, already a millionaire, accept $7mil from Spanos? Did it have something to do with the big giveaway to the Chargers? Ticket guarantee, city funded practice field and offices, millions for stadium renovation? |
Thu 05 Jan 2012 07:18:22
| Name : | PAW |
| Email : | |
| Message | According to today's UT the Sweetwater scandal is the biggest government corruption scandal since the 1970 San Diego taxi scandal where city government heads rolled. |
Thu 05 Jan 2012 10:04:39
Thu 05 Jan 2012 09:53:27
Thu 05 Jan 2012 08:33:35
| Name : | df |
| Email : | BW |
| Message | Jaime made that very remark at a recent bc. |
Thu 05 Jan 2012 08:32:11
Thu 05 Jan 2012 08:28:04
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | PAW |
| Message | PAW Arlie Ricassa is a MVHS graduate. I bet Jaime is glad he is no longer associated with that board. |
Wed 04 Jan 2012 07:38:11
Wed 04 Jan 2012 06:26:02
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | Obi |
| Message | Beck and limbaugh now that is conservatism straight from hell. |
Wed 04 Jan 2012 05:26:53
| Name : | d |
| Email : | DF |
| Message | I'll back you on that. Are you coming Saturday? We're having a party and special guest (hopefully). |
Wed 04 Jan 2012 12:18:54
| Name : | Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | If I'm not mistaken, Rick Santorum got the highest conservative rating from Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. But, several debates ago Rick had a position that totally turned me off of him... I don't remember what it was.. it might have been his "illegal immigration" position, but I'm not sure. I'll be for ANY Republican.. but right now I'm still on the Mitt bandwagon. |
Wed 04 Jan 2012 11:01:07
| Name : | BW |
| Email : | WRT |
| Message | Pretty soon 'YOU' are going to run out of candidates to support. I picture Ron Paul going rouge and running as a third party taking a lot o conservative votes from whoever is the nominee. One thing I do see is that the hypocritical religious right supporting a MORMON. OMG. What is this crying. Remember when the press went berserk when Muskie cried over the press treatment of his wife and in one week we have to supposedly strong right wing zealots shedding tears. As Tom Hanks said there aint no crying in POLITICS. Your candidates are pathetic. Did you see John McCain making an ass of himself just now endorsing Romney. His jokes and endorsements are as stale as he is. |
Wed 04 Jan 2012 10:10:13
Wed 04 Jan 2012 06:48:41
Tue 03 Jan 2012 11:33:21
| Name : | d |
| Email : | KING |
| Message | When do you take over the throne. Giving this much thought, I would venture all new body parts and stuff. |
Mon 02 Jan 2012 04:29:00
| Name : | d |
| Email : | To The King |
| Message | ALL RIGHTY THEN you have my vote. where shall I send my life savings??? I have been writing in for three years now. I really need a name on the ballot. And one more thing: I just got a jury duty letter (guess I'm not going to jail for the last time) so can you get me off of Jury Duty if you are the KING OF USA and do away with this jury duty and just put these convicts in jail without the expense of a trial? |
Mon 02 Jan 2012 03:34:25
| Name : | King Henry.. akd Obi-Juan-Cannoli |
| Email : | d |
| Message | Some times you cant see the forest for the trees.. or is it visa versa? In other words.. right in front of your eyes.. there is "Henry William Ascasio the 1st"... BUT, I don't want to be President.. I want to be KING OF AMERICA... And, in case you haven't ever heard about the 1s plank in my platform.. is, women will get ALL beauty enhancements paid for FREE... lipstick, shoes, boob jobs, short skirts.. what ever you want. Oh.. and all the alcohol you can drink.. |
Mon 02 Jan 2012 03:24:46
| Name : | d |
| Email : | MVHS |
| Message | DON'T WE HAVE ANY OLD CLASSMATES THAT WE CAN SEND TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT??? I WOULD DONATE EVERY THING I HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE. |
Sun 01 Jan 2012 10:53:49
| Name : | Webmaster |
| Email : | refreshed |
| Message | This board has been refreshed for the new year. To see past posts visit the archives. |