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Jan 01, 2007 to Dec 31 2007

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Sat 29 Dec 2007 01:19:32
Name : Tom
Email : art
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Wish I could tell you Tom that my art is doing well....

Haven't had the feeling/passion to do much but the few oils I have done haven't been so bad. Haven't marketed them yet (not my yob) Hard to paint when a shoulder has to be at a certain height to do well instead of sitting on lap - lost perspective. Pain in legs and feet also don't help.

Not feeling sorry for myself at all, just quietly waiting for my body to heal and the only pill I take is a vitamin again.

Enough of this !!

HAPPY N E W Y E A R FELLOW MARINERS.
SURE WISH I HAD A CHERRY BOMB TO THROW ONTO THE FOOTBALL FIELD OUT MY BACK YARD...BUT ALAS THEY ARE ILLEGAL.

JUST DO YOUR BEST IN 20O8......ALL THOSE THINGS YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO DO ...PUT THEM IN THE DRAWER AND IF YOU GET TO MAYBE 1/5TH..I'D SAY YOU WERE A SUCCESS.
Mon 24 Dec 2007 03:23:21
Name : Tom 'the Wizard' McKay
Email : Santa, Just more kisses, hugs and all the rest
Message
Chris, Lynn, and Kathy, and all the Mariners out there, Happy Holidays and may you be blessed with good health for the coming year. And thanks so much for the inspiration in your messages.

Lynn, How is your art going? Lety is having a big show in March. She is really advancing in her skills. Next year she will graduate from UTEP with a BFA in painitng and a minor in drawing.

Have A Happy
Fri 21 Dec 2007 08:03:31
Name : Kathy
Email : Lynn
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Merry Christmas and a Healthy Happy New Year to you too...
I didn't know about your accident and I'm happy to hear you are recovering.
I agree, there is nothing like an accident, health scare, loss of a loved one or an actual illness to make us aware of how important family and friends are. We take sooo much for granted.
Peace and love in 08 to all Mariner's.
Thu 20 Dec 2007 01:37:50
Name : Lynn McCurdy '67
Email :
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Tom, I hope it is ok to post this here.

I would like to thank those who have sent emails to get well.

I had a horrible accident a little over a year ago and it has taken a long time to heal. I am not there yet, but I feel I am finally on the road to recovery.

But that isn't why I am writing. I want to wish everyone a very Happy Holiday for you and your family.

This past year made me realize how important family and friends are-especially when you get another chance in life.

May all you Mariners (and I mean all) be happy, healthy and get that little present you have been wishing for:)

love,
Lynn McCurdy Robinson
Sun 16 Dec 2007 11:24:06
Name : Chris
Email :
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Tom, It's real sad when you lose a friend like that. And so young. But aren't you glad you knew him? Obviously he came in contact with alot of people and if he taught that special something to even half of them that he taught to you then his short life was well spent. None of us is guaranteed any time of life at all and ever day I wake up and am glad to still have one more day. I hope when I go that there will be folks out there who will miss me and remember me fondly as you remember your friend. I think there is no better legacy then to be thought of well when you pass. Keep your chin up Tom.
Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:34:31
Name : Tom
Email : Big Hurt
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Just terrible news. James Butler, our gym owner and Superman Jiu-Jitsu expert, died outside the gym last Wednesday from an apparent heart attack. James was only 40. He was a giant of a man in heart, soul and spirit. He gave this old Gringo a shot at working with his team for the past two years and was ecstatic with the success we were enjoying. I was stunned and felt his death was just a surreal event. The reality of his departure from this earth is just heart breaking. With all my experience over the decades, I have never met a man who had the skill, temperment, and ability to love nearly all makes of people yet when it came to his sport, he was indefatigueable and unbeatable. He earned five black belts and could even tap out the Brazilians and Puerto Rico black belts. He was in the true sense a man of steel. Every martial artist either in the area or traveling through who thought too highly of themselves and stopped by the gym with a challenge met their match and more in the great James. And he was a grand teacher. His day job with the Soccorro Independent School District was to work with handicapped, troubled and children or those with either a mental or physical problem. He was named teacher of the year in 2006 and worked the Special Olympics for years as well. When he had the time, he led his flag football team to an undefeated season and a national championship. In his honor, they retired his #1 jersey at his rosary and wake. I was fortunate to be asked to give an eulogy. I did it with pride and a heavy heart.
I am so hurt when the young people of our world who make such a difference in our children and adults are suddenly taken away that I sometimes can't stand it. I could understand my passing as I have reaped the fruits of a long and fruitful life; albeit I have made mistakes. I can't change things that I have no power over so I just wanted to pass on the word about James and just maybe, a few readers who knew nothing of James wondrous character and teaching will at least have heard of him now and quite possibly know of someone in their own life quite like him who was a difference maker in this tough, cruel but often good life.

I didn't have a happy for days. I am happy that I was close to James and we were heart-to-heart brothers. The time was too short but oh so sweet. Just keep in mind the title from Kenny Chesney's latest number one song, "Don't Blink."

Go on Mariners, Have A Happy...and don't blink.
Sun 11 Nov 2007 11:48:33
Name : Tom
Email : And then there was "Go Go."
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Kathy, great picks. Too bad you are stuck in the boonies. Don't you get DISH? They have two horseracing channels. It is wonderful to catch every big race in the USA and the world. My deceased brother would have loved the coverage. It has been a blessing for me as I attempt to find ways to deal with my medical problems.
Garret Gomez broke Jerry Bailey's record today of 70 stakes wins today. He now has 71 as he masterfully won the big race at Santa anita this afternoon.He was made second favorite but that is only because he is "Go Go" Gomez. I think he might break Jerry's winning purse record of some 23 million as well. It all depends on how much more he rides this year.Imagine, he is the leading money rider, leading stakes rider, won 2 of the Breeder's Cup races and some jealous eastern assholes left him one vote shy of an Eclipse award? That is disgusting. Edgar Prado got it last year because of his excellent riding and connections even though Gomez outgunned him in monies won and in winning percentage. Edgar did win the big one last year and he has been a desreving candidate. But Gomez is the best right now and will be for a few years to come. Joe Talamo, only 18 (he was 17 a few months ago, travled to New Mexico and won the big ZIA race with a thrilling come from behind stretch run. Joe is making a few million dollars this year as both an apprentice and journeyman. Quite a story.

Okay, gotta run. Have a Happy
Next time: when I was at Caliente as a groom. It was 1951.
Sat 10 Nov 2007 12:23:08
Name : Kathy
Email : Tom
Message

P.S. A big congratulations to Lety also. What an accomplishment. You can both be proud!!
Sat 10 Nov 2007 12:21:59
Name : Kathy
Email : Tom
Message
Hey Tom,
Wow...favorite horse of all time...You are right..there are too many. Personally, Secretariet is probably my all time fave, but have had many many favorites in my years of being an avid thoroughbred fan. I started following horses/racing when I was about 12 or 13. I was a pretty good handicapper at that age, if I may say so. Once my uncle took me to Caliente and I gave him my list and he, being the older wiser one, picked his own. Much to his dismay, he should have gone with my picks.. LOL...
Do you remember when Caliente had that contest to name the filly? I think you won her if they chose your entry.
I named her "Invincible Miss"... did not win. LOL.
I didn't know that Jerry Bailey retired. Living here in the midwest is completely different from southern Calif. We get none/next to none news coverage of the Sport of Kings. I was very much aware of the Calif. jockey colony while living there, but again.... not much news. Is Gary Stevens still retired? Garrett is a fine young man and has done well. I think all my old favorite jockeys have long since retired...(hopefully not died).... Fernando Toro (one of the best turf riders ever), was one of my favorite riders. Chris McCarron. Lots of Louisiana boys on the circuit, at least used to be. I somewhere in my memorabilia have autographs of Stevens and Johnny Longden (he was standing in a crowd of spectators and I recognized him). As a youngster I remember asking my folks for a subscription to "Thorougbred of California" magazine. I loved it!! I used to make scrap books and would give anything to have them now. They were newspaper clippings of stakes race results and pics. from the 50's....
I am only about 5 1/2 hrs. from Louisville now and I hope to see the big race once before I die. I never thought I would ever be this close to blue grass country. Hope you can take advantage of your "Kentucky Colonel" status and see it too.
In my opinion, jockies and thoroughbreds are underestimated as athletes.
Oh, yes, just remembered another favorite horse... Phar Lap... he was sensational.
Nice chatting about my favorite sport with such a knowlegeable person as yourself. If I ever get down your way, I would love to visit and talk and talk and talk ....ha ha.
You take care of yourself Tom.
Sat 10 Nov 2007 11:51:07
Name : Tom
Email :
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Kathy, Curlin was spectacular. It was a mighty performance. I saw all the races and recorded most of them as I usually do. Im sure you know that Jerry Bailey, the renowned jockey from my fair city, retired last year. Another jockey, Garrett Gomez, used to ride here too. He is now the leading rider in America since Jerry retired. Garrett won two breeder's cup races and should be named jockey of the year. Edgar Prado received the award last year even though Garret's horses earned more money. Maybe Garret will be justly rewarded this year.
Now it is time to study the new crop of two year olds. Imagine, only six month's until the next Kentucky Derby. Oh, now that I am a certified Kentucky Colonel, I can get a discount on the big race. I have never been to the big dance. I need to look into the possibility as my health hasn't been up to par for a while. I want to see one derby before I check out.
By the way, who is your favorite horse(s) of all time? Too many good one's for me to just pick one. Secretariat has to be right at the top and maybe Swaps and Man 'O War? Citation? Cigar? Even John Henry and Seabiscuit deserve rankings in the top 20 of all time.
If you are ever out our way, ring us up. We might be having enchildadas to die for. That being said, they will have to be made by Lety's mom as the good wife is gtting closer to graduation from UTEP with a Fine Arts Degree.

Lety has been commissioned to do 25 paintings for a big show next March. She is so busy and yet has to take care of me and my ill's plus her Mother who also has cancer. What a beautiful yet amazing woman of character,developed talent and strength. I don't know why I deserved such a lifetime soul-mate but I sure ain't complaining.
Have a Happy
Wed 07 Nov 2007 09:09:54
Name : Kathy
Email : Tom
Message
Can't believe I forgot about the Breeders Cup..... Did you get to watch? What about that Curlin????
Wed 31 Oct 2007 05:21:35
Name : Tom
Email :
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Just checking in. Hope to post some interesting material once I complete some medical protocols. Meanwhile, catch the great story about Hubble in the latest National Geographic.
Have A Happy
Thu 11 Oct 2007 09:43:30
Name : Tom
Email : Soon.....
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Hank, Thanks so much. I hope to get back to the boards soon. I have about two more weeks of medical stuff and then hopefully, will find some spare time.
I hope all is well with you and all Mariners. And about them Chargers and Padres!!! What???? Maybe the Chargers will rebound. Marty Ball anyone?

Have a Happy
Tue 02 Oct 2007 10:11:17
Name : Henry '60
Email : Tom
Message
HAPPY BIRTHDAY you big lug.. and many more to you.
Mon 27 Aug 2007 08:08:27
Name : Tom
Email :
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Still busy with health issues. I do want to post some info on Muslim Science (Ugghhh!!!)and the 'big Bang' updates. Perhaps soon.
HAve a Happy
Tue 21 Aug 2007 05:08:58
Name : Tom
Email : Soon
Message
Hello all, I am slowly recovering from my accident. I know I haven't posted in quite a while but look for some good science soon.

Have a Happy
Thu 26 Jul 2007 08:18:24
Name : Tom
Email :
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Been over in Arizona for medical reasons. I'm back. I have to catch up on some business and then I hope to get some interesting posts done.
Have a Happy
Fri 29 Jun 2007 05:57:51
Name : Tom
Email :
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I've had relatives in the hospital. It will be three more days before I have time to post info.
Have A Happy
Fri 22 Jun 2007 10:04:57
Name : Henry '60
Email : Tom
Message
Actually this is the same color I saw all the time. But I discovered I had a bad computer monitor and the colors I was seeing were not what everybody else was seeing.

Now that I have/bought a new monitor I can see what y'all are seeing. And I'm correcting the color on all the boards and photos.
Fri 22 Jun 2007 09:58:54
Name : Tom
Email :
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Hello all. I've been rather busy lately and have had no opportunity to post. I still have some commitments this weekend but will do the 'Big Bang' story on Monday...hopefully.

HAve a Happy.

Great color Hank. Very appealing.
Sat 09 Jun 2007 09:26:51
Name : Tom
Email : New York, New York.
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No, But I was on 'Rags to Riches.' Made $8.60 for my $2 bet. More importantly, She not only beat the boys in the Belmont stakes, she is the 1st filly ever to win the Belmont at a mile and a half. she is the first FEMALE to tame the boys in over 100 years. Todd Pletcher, blanked in 38 previous tries, finally gets a triple crown winner. Johnny Velasquez, the jockey, fianlly gets his first triple crown win. A good day all around. "Start Spreading the News,,,,,,,"
An El Paso Burgess High School grad was on the space shuttle. Kudos to him. More later, especially some startling news concerning the 'Big Bang.' I know of one (or many) anonymous who can't wait. Ha! Ha! Ha!
Tonite we party. My wife made straight 'A's for the semester. Yesterday she sold two paintings and she is in two upcoming juried shows. It's country music night and we are going to get our boots on and do the 'two-step.' Yippee! If only Gene and Roy could see us now.
Fri 08 Jun 2007 09:08:25
Name : ????
Email :
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Wonder if Tom was on it?
Fri 08 Jun 2007 07:09:45
Name : on the right
Email : .
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Just watched the spaceshuttle Atlantis blast off. What a spectacular sight!
Thu 07 Jun 2007 12:57:09
Name : Drats
Email :
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Googy g, Darn, I wish I had said that. Really amazing figures.
Mon 04 Jun 2007 11:18:23
Name : goofy g
Email : hasta luego
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Tom,
Off to Idaho for a week, sons graduating, visits w/friends and seeing those mountains and clear/clean water. (The Ohio river depresses me every time I see it!) We got steady rain finally, but it is looking like a drought summer here. Speak with you again soon via ma bell. Be good and behave :)

sorry for the non-english Henry, forgive me my trespasses okay?
Mon 04 Jun 2007 11:09:58
Name : goofy
Email : neat
Message
« Another Great Sucking Sound | Main | NULLIUS IN VERBA »

October 25, 2006
Weighing the Web
The Internet weighs two ounces.


Driving it takes 50,000,000 horsepower


Richard Karlgaard of Forbes has set me to thinking by comparing his soaring home energy costs with Google's multi-gigabuck power bill. $1,200 a month is a lot of Pacific Gas & Electric, but it seems to me that at just $3 a year per capita powering the global internet is a bargain even by third world standards.

Yet somehow my own ISP bill gives me no joy. A dollar a day seems pretty stiff , because the electrons I feed my pet laptop are costing me about half a billion dollars a pound. Let me explain.

I'm taking about the power that drives the bytes , not lights the lights. The late Bucky Fuller ,of geodesic fame, baffled architects by asking how much their buildings weighed. Not being paid by the pound , few gave much thought to what fraction of the stuff in their structures actually served a structural purpose. 9-11 changed that, for while a weight-is-no-object behemoth like the Empire State Building shrugged off an Army Air Corps bomber crash in 1945, the skeletal World Trade Center's collapse taught a different lesson in false economy : mass and energy still matter. So how much does the internet weigh ? And how many horsepower does it consume?

Parts of the original DARPAnet were built like a tank to survive a thermonuclear holocaust. But much post-modern net construction is utterly gossamer, all air and microwaves. Wherever the two come together, boxes full of integrated circuits bear labels that specify how much power they can handle, and solid state textbooks reveal how much of the silicon gets hot, and how much just sits around . In short, you can do the math.

A statistically rough ( one sigma) estimate might be 75-100 million servers @ ~350-550 watts each.. Call it Forty Billion Watts or ~ 40 GW. Since silicon logic runs at three volts or so, and an Ampere is some ten to the eighteenth electrons a second, if the average chip runs at a Gigaherz , straightforward calculation reveals that some 50 grams of electrons in motion make up the Internet.

Applying the unreasonable power of dimensional analysis to the small tonnage of silicon involved yields much the same result. As of today, cyberspace weighs less than two ounces. It's hard to gauge its heft more exactly ,since devices vary in speed, but to get a handle on The Whole Web instead of just the suburbs we're wired to , try tripling that figure-there are maybe ten times more mostly idle CPU chips in PC's than servers, and fewer very busy ones in the world's comparative handful of supercomputers .


Averaging globally , each person alive today has six watts of computational power at the disposal of their twenty watt brain . It's hard for Third Worlders to claim their six watt share of the worlds computing horsepower , but in wired nations like America or Japan, more energy is expended on surfing than thinking.Yet just as cars contain hydraulic fluid as well as gasoline , the net has more than electrons inside-- a lot of its wire and fiber optic infrastructure is shared.. Some cables crackle with live bandwidth while others slumber-- the mix of computer , TV and telecom traffic is unpredictable , and cable trunks branch like trees.

It is easy to put a tape measure to the backbone of this shaggy creature, but the length of its hairy wiring is hard to guess at . Factal geometry suggests it still takes a staggering four miles of copper wire to connect the average US home to optical broadband . With copper at three dollars a pound , that 25 pound wire link to the nearest optical cable makes ultratransparent glass a staggering bargain at ten times its weight in gold--it does the work of a billion times its weight in copper. The almost infinite bandwidth of ultratransparent glass has pared the web down to run impressively well on ten nanograms of electrons per netizen, a figure optical computing may not much change , for it takes electrons to make photons.

Just as well- if the net ran on recycled light , it would be weightless as an IP lawyer's word. As matters stand , it takes upwards of 50 million horsepower to horse those critical 50 grams of electrons around . When users push the pedal to the floor, the horsepower unleashed on the information superhighway exceeds the power of all the hybrid vehicles on the American road.


Copyright 2006 Russell Seitz all rights reserved .

Posted at 12:55 AM in Web/Tech | Permalink
Sun 03 Jun 2007 12:35:12
Name : To B
Email :
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Don't understand 0.2 millionths of an ounce. Is that 20% of one millionth of an ounce? Or is it 1/5,000,000 of an ounce? Aren't you mixing decimals with fractions?
Sun 03 Jun 2007 12:20:34
Name : B
Email :
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0.2 millionths of an ounce is the answer to the old question.
Sat 26 May 2007 10:50:04
Name : Tom
Email :
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GG, I am off to the gym. I rattled enough sabers for one day. I seldom have time to post but it seems I at least caused a glut of action on the boards-albeit in the name of thunder, lightning and brimstone rather than methods of support for ones supposition-and maybe the ratings went up ala Hank and his response.He was seeking mates on the other board to no avail. finis.
Have A Happy
Fri 25 May 2007 11:38:21
Name : goofy g
Email :
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I started to say your up late but your 3 hours earlier than here. I just felt like leaving very detectable sarcasm back there. :) My bad to be childish myself, but there it is.
Nice riding weather here finally, lots of stock out being exercised in front of the house. Watched a guy trying to do a stadium parade through the newly cut hay field, somebody was more interested in eating. It was comical and the horse won out. Right now the allergies are a problem but the smell of that hay drifting in the window is worth it. Catch you later, good nights sleep to you Tom.
Fri 25 May 2007 10:47:48
Name : Tom
Email : Theory
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A theory is not an educated guess. That is an hypothesis. Just in case someone forgot.
Fri 25 May 2007 07:34:51
Name : Tom
Email :
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We've Heard it before,

Actually, I am guilty. I had cut and pasted that for my 'magicthomas.com' site that Hank runs for me. I couldn't and I was getting e-mails knocked back to me.I apologize.
Have A Happy
Thu 24 May 2007 10:22:26
Name : Tom
Email :
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Rosa************ You are such a good sport.

Have A Happy..And give a hug to my pal Ralph.
Tue 22 May 2007 11:53:32
Name : Roannadanadana
Email :
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You answered the question just fine Tom. and who cares what the rest of the world thinks, vinegar is still the best cleaning solution in my book. :)
Mon 21 May 2007 10:27:52
Name : Tom
Email :
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Nobody answered the Q. How much does the internet weigh?
Have A Happy
Mon 21 May 2007 10:25:11
Name : Tom
Email :
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Rosanadanadana,

Oh, I was just jesting. Hank knows my writing signature and I am making my own attempts, albeit I am an amateur compared to Hank. And I know Ralph quite well.
Have A Happy
Mon 21 May 2007 10:22:10
Name : Tom
Email : Clean, Purify, Health, Beauty, etc.,
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Rosanadanadana, I know vinegar is bitter when I take it straight or use it as a cold remedy. Yet it has hundreds of uses. I prefer apple cider vinegar as I believe it helps with cancer and a host of other diseases and is a cleaning gem. I also like white vinegar on my cucumbers along with tomatoes and salt and pepper. Vinegar is amazing.

Thanks for the post.
Have a Happy
Mon 21 May 2007 09:13:10
Name : To Tom
Email : Rosanadanadana
Message
Here's a question tom, for your psychological science/. In the previous post, you asked who eg Hank, Jerry, Pluto you get the idea.

What is it with people who need to know these things? Can't we just ask a question without the whole dung world knowing everything about us and our bathroom habits. I personally like soft charmin, but can use the generic in a pinch. But those that leave the toilet lide up really pinch my hide and sometimes my butt.

I really hate hard water as it leaves this crumbling grundgy white stuff you have to use vinegar and baking soda on in order to get off. Have you ever smelled vinegar Tom? My god, where do they get that stuff, you need nose clips to use it. And if it gets on your skin you stink all day long.

My point is this Tom, t hat is my business if anyone asks. But they have to ask. If I ask it is probably a stinky question, but it is my question. Care for some vinegar?
Sun 20 May 2007 05:09:23
Name : Tom
Email : Sex and Diarrhea
Message
Errr, Ralph maybe?? Tomski???? Hank?? Ronald Mcdonald? The new kid on the block?

No matter. We don't have to wait, Escherichia coli has evidently been alive and well with our ancestors for tens of thousands of years.
And because it is mostly in the gut, most of us don't think that we are too vulneable when it comes to sex. Uh Oh! Wrong.Urinary tract infections (UTi's)make up millions of doctor visits a year.
Women are most vulnerable due to the thrusting of sexual activity, especially anal sex; childbirth, menopause, toilet habits,anatomical development, exercise with underwear,neonatal infection,and changes in sexual maturation.
Ah, and then there is the safe oral sex. Oh yeah? The sharing during that encounter leads to bad infections of the bladder.
Thrusting during sex causes the bacteria to move from the anus to the vagina if the anal area is not completely clear of fecal material of any size. Easily understood is the fact that if one has anal sex, E-coli will follow.
There is an abundance of literature about E-coli on the net. Be assured that of the numerous types, with and without flagella, with and without mobility, uropathogenic types are by far the worse to gain entrance into ones urinary tract. Check out a Michigan University Health Science study that pinpointed the culprits.
There is a time when boys are more susceptible and that is with neonatal UTi's. Circumcision reduces the risk.
And don't forget, that next trip to Acapulco just might end up as an E-coli adventure rather than a vacation. take your own water or just drink wine.
Oh, by the way ladies, please don't wipe from back to front; wipe from front to back. I wrote a joke about that one time years ago on this site.
Have A Happy

Sun 20 May 2007 01:46:45
Name : E-Colitis
Email :
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How about E-Coli, Tomski? Can we count on that in the future?
Sat 19 May 2007 03:03:46
Name : Tom
Email : If Your Smooching Tonight
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Gosh, who doesn't like to smooch? Okay, but consider the following: eight-legged Demodex mites are nestled head down inside the follicles of our eyelashes. They are constantly feeding on skin cells. Your tongue and teeth are loaded with microscopic yeast as is your skin and intestines. Your nerve cells might be quite full of the virus, herpes simplex. And ancient DNA from ancestors of the far past make up 8% of our genome.
The total amount of microbes in ones body can be around a 100 trillion. The good news is that most of them are friends not foe. But when bloodsuckers like bedbugs, fleas, lice and other organisms invade the body, the battle is on. When we think we are losing the battle, we get drugs, especially antibiotics. And though they may fight the offender, they often disturb our body's ecosystem in the gut by killing the good bacteria as well.
Don't play with the tootsies either.Parasitic microbes latch on to bare feet and communal showers, invade the skin, genitalia and scalp. They also creep under the toenails to set up disease. Ringworm, jock itch and athletes foot are just a few of the dangers they cause.
Sex? Think thrice. Think Human Papillomavirus. There are more than 100 types of these rascals that can effect humans. We all know about the variety of warts they can cause. Not really. Most of us haven't a clue that there are 30 strains or more of this virus that are sexually transmitted. And the CDC (in Georgia) estimates that
at least 50% of sexually active men and women will be infected with genital HPV at some time. Most dangerous of the strains are types 16 and 18. They can lead to cancers of the cervix, penis, vagina, anus, and rectum. That is why the new vaccine (not 100% efficient but pretty good) Gardasil is so important to check out.
Then there are the standby bacterial and viral diseases like Syphilis, Gonorrhea, other herpes,Candida albicans and AIDS. Imagine????

Now, Have A Happy Date This Evening.

Sat 19 May 2007 02:58:51
Name : Tom
Email : If Your Smooching Tonight
Message
Gosh, who doesn't like to smooch? Okay, but consider the following: eight-leeged Demodex mites asre nestled head down inside the follicles of our eyelashes. They are constantly feeding on skin cells. Your tongue and teeth are loaded with microscopic yeast as is your skin and intestines. Your nerve cells might be quite full of the virus, herpes simplex. And ancient DNA from ancestors of the far past make up 8% of our genome.
The total amount of microbes in ones body can be around a 100 trillion. The good news is that most of them are friends not foe. But when bloodsuckers like bedbugs, fleas, lice and other organisms invade the body, the battle is on. When we think we are losing the battle, we get drugs, especially antibiotics. And though they may fight the offender, they often disturb our body's ecosystem in the gut by killing the good bacteria as well.
Don't play with the tootsies either.Parasitic microbes latch on to bare feet and communal showers , invade the skin, genitalia and scalp. They also creep under the toenails to set up disease. Ringworm, jock itch and athletes foot are just a few of the dangers they cause.
Sex? Think thrice. Think Human Papillomavirus. There are more than 100 types of these rascals that can effect humans. We all know about the variety of warts they can cause. Not really. Most of us haven't a clue that there are 30 strains or more of this virus that are sexually transmitted. And the CDC (in Georgia) estimates that
at least 50% of sexually active men and women will be infected with genital HPV at some time. Most dangerous of the strains are types 16 and 18. They can lead to cancers of the cervix, penis, vagina, anus, and rectum. That is why the new vaccine (not 100% efficient but pretty good) Gardasil is so important to check out.
Then there are the standby bacterial and viral diseases like Syphilis, Gonorrhea, other herpes,Candida albicans and AIDS. Imagine????

Now, Have A Happy Date This Evening.

Sat 19 May 2007 02:26:13
Name : Tom
Email :
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33% of the file sharing traffic is music tracks.
Have a Happy
Sat 19 May 2007 02:24:28
Name : Tom
Email :
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59% of internet file sharing is attributed to folks swapping video files.
Sat 19 May 2007 02:22:36
Name : Tom
Email :
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9% of internet traffic is e-mail and 75% is due to file sharing.
Have a Happy
Sat 19 May 2007 02:20:59
Name : Rom
Email :
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Modest Tom posted same and it will also appear on magicthomas.com. A young man doing our Jiu Jitsu Website wanted me to post it so he could transfer some info to the website. And of course, I had to demonstrate my old ag modesty.

Have a Happy
Sat 19 May 2007 02:18:10
Name : Tom
Email : Weight Of The Internet
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Great article in my science magazine about the internet. Let's test to see who else has read th article. Okay? How much does the internet weigh?
Sat 19 May 2007 02:07:49
Name : Tom
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Correct. At age 65 my wife told me that it was time to toot my own horn. So be it. And good things have happened since.
Have a Happy
Sat 19 May 2007 11:10:06
Name : We've heard it before
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We've learned over the years that Tom is not one thing: MODEST.
Fri 18 May 2007 11:31:30
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Brief Bio of Coach Tom (the Wizard) McKay

Coach Mckay graduated as a Top - Ten Senior from UTEP in 1971, earned his Masters in 1975 with a 4.0 GPA, and has completed advanced work from Purdue University. He has been a boxing coach and official for over 40 years. He founded the El Paso Boxing and Martial Arts Hall of Fame and served as its first president. McKay has also been a co-director of the Regional Golden Gloves, coach of the year twice and co-coach of the year three times. He has also served as a referee at the local, state and national level. McKay obtained his grooming in the art of boxing by experts Santos Quijano, Alex Guerrero, Ollie Wilhelm, and Mauricio Barragan.
In 1967, Dr. Raul Rivera, attorney Pat Dwyer, John Lanahan, coach Tom McKay, coach Sammy Burke of Las Cruces, New Mexico, and notable others helped form a boxing alliance between New Mexico and El Paso with the acronym SWIABA (Southwestern International Amateur Boxing Association). A box off tournament was then held at the El Paso Coliseum to select a team to compete in the AAU National championships in San Diego, California. It was the first ever event at the city’s new Sports Arena. With their team intact and the necessary monies raised, if was off to San Diego where arrangements were made with the United States Marine Corp to provide room and board for the coaches and team. The tournament was to last three days and because it was the largest contingent of amateur boxers in USA history, competition was to run 24/7.
The big event had three rings and coaches and boxers got little rest. Nevertheless, the SWIABA team pulled off a number of upsets, especially by Mike Ortiz 132 of Las Cruces, New Mexico. After four wins in 36 hours over state champions and nationally ranked fighters, Ortiz, only 10-6 coming into the tournament, won his way to the semi-finals where he lost a split decision to three time national champion, Quincelan Daniels. Even more brilliant was Earl Large, who captured the 119-pound championship to pocket GOLD. The short-handed SWIABA fighters fought hard and made a name for them selves. And they finished 5th in the nation out of over forty-eight teams. Even Mexico, the Philippines and Hawaii were represented. Back home, only New Mexico newspapers wrote extensively about the huge accomplishment.
McKay was head coach of the Ft. Bliss Falcons during the 1980’s and owned, operated and coached the Eastside Boxing Club for some twenty years. From 1980 to 2004, McKay worked intermittently as an assistant coach to El Paso’s 7-time World Kickboxing Champion, Cliff ‘Magic’ Thomas. In 2003, McKay helped condition Thomas for his 7th world title. Shortly thereafter, McKay and Thomas corroborated on a book about the latter’s life and dynamic ring career. The book, “Magic! Magic! Magic!” has met with tremendous local success, excellently on the road, and good Internet sales.
In 1996, McKay, afflicted with aggressive cancer, was recruited by principal Efren Yturralde of the Raymond Telles Academy to teach boxing and science to problem youngsters, hard-core gang members and a few incorrigibles at the academy. After four years, a teacher of the year award, and some 500 students participating in the highly successful program, McKay’s illness led to his retirement. However, after surviving chemotherapy, McKay was hired by Powerhouse Gyms as Boxing Director and became a personal trainer as well. In 2006, Tom met James Butler and was so impressed with his school of Jiu-Jitsu that he hired on as both a striking and boxing coach.
McKay’s wife, Leticia, is a senior art major at UTEP; his son’s, Mike and Les, are both officers with the El Paso and Austin fire Departments; his daughter Leah works in Florida for FEMA and his daughter Jennifer is a housewife in San Diego, California. McKay has five grandchildren: Christopher McKay, Sean McKay, Mikala Lowrance, Abrielle Stewart and Lonnie Ray Stewart III.
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Fri 18 May 2007 11:28:19
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Holy Tunafish, the Preakness Stakes from Pimlico is tormorrow. It should prove very, very interesting. Street Sense will have to run another great race to beat Hardspun and Curlin. Curlin will redeem his self in this race and make it a dogfight to the wire. Hard Spun should be close and maybe steal the race and if it is muddy, anything goes.
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Tue 08 May 2007 05:05:56
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MV Alum.
Your correct. What a shame he gets so little notice.
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Tue 08 May 2007 03:20:58
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Edwin Armstrong invented FM (frequency modulation)radio in 1933.
Mon 07 May 2007 09:44:27
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Past thoughts, very, very good. Would you believe that Marconi didn't understand the vast ventures for the radio? He was into morse code. Or that few people know that Nikola Tesla actually has credit for inventing the radio? Check out the poor guy who invented FM on your dial. He is the forgotten genius. Do you know his name?

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Mon 07 May 2007 06:18:39
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* Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons.”

Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949



* “I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”

Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943



* “I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won’t last out the year.”

The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957



* “But what … is it good for?”

Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip.



* “There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.”

Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977



* “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us.”

Western Union internal memo, 1876
Sun 06 May 2007 03:15:05
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Street Sense comes from next to last with only 3/8 of a mile to go to run away with the derby. Jocky Calvin Borel, aka 'Bor-rail' saved ground on the rail and luckily, no one backed up and he burst through to mow down the field. It was stunning.
For the first time in decades, the favorites hit the board. Hard Spun ran a spectacular front running pace and nearly won it all.
Though Street Sense was the favorite, he was the higest paid favorite in Ky. Derby history at over 4-1. He paid over 11 dollars to win.
A smashing race and I could see that many fans were having a delightful time.
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Sat 05 May 2007 12:00:01
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Googy G, The wet track is going to play havoc what with a field of 20. It will take some luck to win this race; and not necessarily nthe best horse.

I like a fast track for the derby.

Oh, I never received the tumblers.
Have a Happy, Tom
Thu 03 May 2007 01:07:59
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Saturday approaches..... congrats on the newly added member of the family. Remember when men just waited in a bar for the news, glad times have changed and we are more involved in the schema of birthing! Raining like crazy here and over near Lexington, we'll see what the track holds at post time. Man it is crazy fever pitch here right now, all week long. Have a good week of it, and enjoy the race.
Wed 02 May 2007 11:45:23
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Hank, Heavy spammers at website. Help!
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Mon 30 Apr 2007 10:58:26
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Goofy G. I am back from California. I didn't have a minute to spare. Some of my tests were iffy. I have to see my heart speicalist as soon as I can. As if ONJ, cancer, osteoporosis, and diverticulosis wasn't enough to deal with. But 'Say hey, Willie Mays', I finally made it home, albeit not before I went through some wicked weather on the road. I even had to stop for a night due to hail, blowing dust and heavy showers. Mud-caked my car. then I got sick from the food I ate at a local restaurant in the desert and didn't sleep a wink. I arrived home yesterday and was so hyped from driving that it took me five hours to get to sleep. Today, I was so knocked out I couldn't even get out of the house until a bit ago when I went to the grocery store.
Tomorrow should be better.And speaking of better, my daughter in Lakeside had a baby boy Friday evening. I was right there. My 5th grandchild. How about them sweet apples?
Curlin wasn't evern in consideration for the derby a few weeks back. Now, after his big Blue Grass win,the strong- looking, long-striding hunk of a horse might be the favorite for the big dance. Doesn't matter how good a horse he is and the fact that he has only three starts. If he gets a good break, is in the thick of things turning for home, he will be in the mix at the wire.
And speaking of horses for the derby, any one of some 10 will have a good shot should they get positioning at the turn for home and don't have a troubled trip. Trouble will be-a-plenty as it looks like a full field will line up for the '133 Running of the Roses'.
It should be exciting. I doubt that Curlin will win if he isn't managed well.And did you know that there has never been a disqualification in the derby? That means anything goes and believe me, there will be some real bumping, juggling and whips-a-flying throughout the race.
Longshots win the derby often and that is because of the large field, post position, track conditions, horses for courses,hot jockey, early speed, tactical speed, turn of foot if positioned, trainers getting away with doping and of course, a ton of luck. In a short field, the favorites would more than likely duel it out. I don't thing a Secretariat is in the field. No Biz Like Showbiz, the mighty Curlin ane the Argentine invader could develop into great horses. Saturday will tell the tale. What could be more exciting than the greatest 2 minutes in sports when all is said and done?
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Thu 26 Apr 2007 02:50:09
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Tom?
Hope all is as well as it can be. Still off & on rain here with most of it missing the track. Now the prospect is for dry to damp conditions. Ofcourse that could turn to tornados and floods with the level of predictablity we have with weather these days. Have a pain free happy for sure.
Sat 21 Apr 2007 03:43:49
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I'll be gone for a spell. Medical stuff.
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Mon 16 Apr 2007 11:39:41
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Goofy George, Thanks for the uplift. My ONJ is wicked today.
My e-mail is tmckay@elp.rr.com. My phone number is 915 591 6089.

The Derby. Oh the Derby! Churchill Downs and the Twin spires. What a magnificent place. What a splendid place to be on the first Saturday in May. Next year might be the year for me.

As for the running in 2007, it is up for grabs at this juncture. Nobody stands out and the post position draw is ever so important in this race. Traffic congestion, dirt in the eyes, boxed in, accidental or deliberate swats to the head by another jocks whip, possible doping and being masked, infections, injuries before of during the race, indigestion of the horse, constipation, shin problems, shipping sickness, been running on polytracks and now dirt, bad break from the gate, stumbling,saddle strap problems, crowd problems, jumping shadows, and biggest of all: how good and effective was the new shoes put on and when were they put on and did the horse sore up; and how balanced was the horse after the farrier put on the shoes.
My deceased brother, Buddy McKay, was a top quarter horse rider in the 40's and later became one of the premiere farriers in this country, Canada and Mexico. He also became a Top-ten candidate for one of the meanest drunks of all time. Nevertheless, he once shod the first 3 finishers in the All American Futurity. He swam and shod horses that won The Little Brown Jug and the Preakness. I have never met another farrier who knew a horses feet better than my brothr.
When I was attending MV, my brother took a 1500 dollar claimer, So La Ci, and shod him to greatness. He shod horses in $50,000 match races in the 50's and 60's and 70's and not a one of them lost. He was that good. He was also equally that good at getting drunk and fighting. Nobody, no matter what size of man, could whip him. He just whupped everybody who tried him and every tough who wanted to make their mark by trying him. Like his great uncle, the gunfighter, 'Bud' Frazer, Buddy wsn't about to let someone else get a notch on their belt off of him. And nobody ever did. One heavyweight boxer co-cocked him while he was drinking a beer at a bar. Blindsided him is better. He recovered and brutally beat that fighter so bad that he had to go to the hospital for days.

Back to the Derby. Curlin, with only 3 outs, is looking mighty good. Inexperienced but it didn't show as he wiped out the talanted field in the Bluegrass. Cowtown Cat is coming around and looks sound when he pulled up. Great Hunter is a disappopitment but then again, his jockey got him boxed and then when he pulled to another lane, he was hit by another horse and knocked off stride. Don't count him out just yet. Octave was beaten a nose with Garrett Gomez up. However, he was flying at the end of a 1 1/8 miles. the Derby is an eigth longer.
Street Sense was also in deep trouble as his jock seemed to position him badly and feel that he could win no matter what. Nearly correct. He too got beat a nose in a thrilling finish. He might be the favorite over Curlin. Means little in the Derby unless one gets a favorable draw and great break and positioning for the quarter pole.
Circular Quay is such a muscular and well-cut horse. If he is growing like I think he is and if he is mature enough, he will be in the mix down the lane.
Dominican is coming on strong. He might be a contender and he might be a pretender. Saturday, he was lights out.
Scat Daddy is on the improve as well. He will need a good post to be dangerous at this distance.
Kip Deville ran big too. Might be a stunner in the Derby.
No Biz Like Show Biz, who lost his last race but grabbed a close second, should do well at the Derby distance. Funnny Cides trainer has him ready for the Derby. If the pace is right, he could jump the leaders at the quarter pole with his lighning move when unwrapped and speed to a 2 or 3 length lead. Curlin and Street sense, Octave or whomever, might find it difficult to run him down.
The horse to look out for is Octave. It won't matter mcuh where he breaks from as he comes from behind. If Gomez rides him and he isn't too far behind, he could win this race. He was nosed out Saturday but not beaten as a top contender for the Derby. He might relish the extra distance. But Gomez can't lag too far back in the Derby or get trapped on the rail or brushed hard by others in the back of the pack. If he should get positioning at the top of the stretch, he could be a challenge to Curlin, No Biz Like Showbiz and Street Sense should those three end up in a head-to-head furious battle down the stretch.
A sleeper? Kip Deville has ben showing stamina and speed. McCanns Mojave has some tactical speed and a good burst for a sizteenth of a mile when asked; good turn of foot. And then there is Zanjero. He upset the mighty Saturday and if your looking for a price and a sound shot at winning, here is your horse. Maybe 12-15 to 1. He is hot property right now and
can run with any class horse.
Others with a chance, albeit a long chance are, Officer Rocket, Cobalt Blue (Won Tough in California), Tiago (good longshot chance), Notional (Has good turn of foot), Any Given Saturday ( Doesn't seem to quite get there but always hits the boards), Chilokee and the one that might steal the whole damn thing with his front-running speed, Teuflesberg. This horse doesn't run out of gas when he hits the stretch run. However, he has been getting away with slow fractions on the lead. The Derby will see him challenged early. If there is a speed duel, and I think there will be, then Mr. T. is likely finished about the 8th pole. Perhaps not, he is bred classy.
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Mon 16 Apr 2007 02:20:42
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Colonel Tom, I know the term, one of my buds here is also wearing that moniker & proud of it. We will have to get your wife a "pink" hat & you will both fit right in at the derby. I dont have your address written down anywhere, let me know by e-mail and I'll get these in the snail mail. No prof. here, just a grad. student, SWK major w/ a minor in sociology.
Stay tuned there are some interesting developments in the running this year I hear.
Sat 14 Apr 2007 10:55:19
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Just two weeks till the Kentucky Derby. This past year went by way too fast. Ouchy!!!
Wed 11 Apr 2007 06:15:36
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Earlier I misspoke concerning the rules of the International Fight League.
In the IFL, fighters are allowed to "hold", go the ground, grapple and use other techniques that are not allowed in the World Combat League.
Not that anyone is really interested.
I just thought I should correct what I said.
Wed 11 Apr 2007 01:43:53
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Goofy George, I do have real Kentucky Shot glasses; had them a long time. However, I am always interested in more.
I will e-mail you too.

Say, are you a student at Morehead State or perhaps a Prof??

Did you know I as made a Kentucky Colonel this year by the Governor of Kentucky? True. It is just an honorary thing but has the appearance of being pithy. There are some valuable benefits that go along with the honor as well. I get discounts for the derby and other events, including motels, car rentals and free barbecue from the local colonels right at the track both Friday and Saturday. Next year, I might get lucky and attend my first ever Kentucky Derby. Here's hoping (toasting my glass of milk).
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Wed 11 Apr 2007 01:32:43
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Tom,
Horse racing fan that you are, would you like some local KY derby shot glasses available now in the blue grass state? They do quite the yearly promotion of stuff at the liquor stores including that horrible mint stuff. lol.
Let me know, new e-mail is gxwarm01@morehead-st.edu Stay healthy as a horse old son.

Tue 10 Apr 2007 12:36:08
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It was sweat, punch, kick, sweat, punch and kick for 2 hours straight at Fernie Callero's AKKA KArate last night. Fernie is a 4 time world champion. He was getting 25 of his students in fighting shape; 7 of them this weekend in Albuquerque, New Mexico. In May, Fernie will promote a championship show in Santa Teresa, New Mexico. I will be there.
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Mon 09 Apr 2007 08:57:33
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Ultimate fighting has been on tv for some 10 years now. Royce Gracie! Remember him? they have had some 20 plus re-organizations of the original sport. They have had to meet state standards in order to hold their bouts. Naturally, Vegas is the easiest.
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Our second world champion, Fernie Calleros, is on the Houston Team Franchise for the new kickboxing organization set up by chuck Norris. He will get about 1500-2000 grand for fighting one round only. All fighters fight one round and at the end of the program, the team with the most points, wins the duel. Sort of like the NBA and NFL, or rodeo, the teams with the most points will be in the final four at the end of the year. They will have championship matches to determine the yearly champion. Very neat concept. Most of us have thought of aomething like this, even for real wrestling, but no can do without money, sponsors and support from various state organizations.
I am leaving for Fernies gym right now. I worked with him and a couple of his karate kickboxers to enter the local golden Gloves.
Mon 09 Apr 2007 06:47:38
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I'm not Tom, but Ultimate Fighting has been on TV for quite a while now.
Mon 09 Apr 2007 12:58:41
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So ultimate fighting is not on Tv yet, right?
Mon 09 Apr 2007 09:22:23
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Lately there are two "new" genres.
Chuck Norris's "World Combat League" which allows no grappling at all but utilizes "strikes", hands, knees, feet and elbows. Fighters must continually fight and not "lag" or they can lose a penalty point to the opponent.
It is a team effort with each fighter accumulating points for the team, or losing points as the case may be.
There is also the "International Fight League" which, I believe, has, basically, the same rules as the "World Combat League"
Mon 09 Apr 2007 01:05:46
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To 'Hey Tom.'

No, Ultimate Fighting is a blood sport on the rise. It is even nastier and more brutal than boxing in my opinion. I can't believe it is a sanctioned sport. It was stopped in many states a few years back as it looked like "Human Cockfighting." Royce Gracie of Brazil ruled for a few years; hardly any rules at all and Gracie used his Gi to choke opponents out, even from the ground. Finally, because of the attraction of a new breed of bloodthirsty young maniacal fans, some bigwigs in politics, especially in Las Vegas (Mafioso maybe) and other powerful cities, noting that the sport did have a blood cult appeal,were likely made an offer they couldn't refuse and SHAZAM, the sport was okay-ed but they had to water down the rules to make it appear more represenatable.
Boxing has been banned here and in other countries throughout the years but has managed to go underground or through other channels to stay mainstream. Kickboxing (Some) on the other hand does not as Ultimate Fighting allows, use elbows to be thrown or in some cases, no knees except to the body.
Kickboxing started in Japan and later in Thailand. It was very brutal and allowed elbows, knees and strikes to the back of the head and even stomps.
American Kickboxing is a combination of Thai Kickboxing and Western Boxing in some organization. There were a few organizations in the 60's that tried to get kickboxing off and runnning but they didn't have the powers in office and other areas to pull it off. Their rules were not uniform and they just didn't know how to get fan approval. Then along came Joe Corley and others and the PKA was born.
In the 70's, the PKA grew big and many of the champions went into the movies or became icons in America and Canada. Corley and his associates managed to get ESPN on line and after a few years, landed a deal with NBC and CBS. The PKA then grew by leaps and bounds and was the BIG GUN for kickboxing.
PKA rules made the sport exciting. A fighter couldn't sweep the legs, had to keep his kicks above the waist and there were no knees or elbows allowed. Participants had to practice their many higher techniques than what one sees in present day kickboxing that allows knees to the body and sweeps. The rules made the sport unique.
It was a beautiful sport what with the high flying techniques, jump turn kicks, spinning backfists (Tommy Williams was so good)Jump roundhouses, jump backicks,spinning front kicks, crescent kicks, axe kicks, spinning hook kicks, jump side kicks (Oh how Davey Johnston could fly)spinning turn kicks plus the addition of every boxing
technique one could use and sometimes master.
Heavyweight Joe Lewis was one of the greatest PKA fighters of all time. So was Bill 'Superfoot' Wallace. So was Gordon Franks and 'King of the Bloodsport,' Paul Vizzio and many other greats-many in the movies the past 30 years. Cliff 'Magic' Thomas made that level too when he knocked out the undefeated Franks as a 20-1 underdog right here in El Paso in 1980. That made Cliff the first athlete in any sport from El Paso to win a world title.
Cliff later destroyed Vizzio on NBC Sportsworld and ESPN at the big casino on the Boardwalk in New Jersey. Cliff went on to win 7 world championshsips in 5 weight divisions. He not only beat every world champion he could line up against, he also kncoked most of them out. Tony Rosser was resilient and so well conditioned that he lasted 12 rounds with Cliff 3 times. He went down 5 times but would somehow be counted to 9 and make it up before the ref would stop the fight.
In my book, Magic! Magic! Magic! (website 'magicthomas.com), you can read how Cliff and Tony's fights were called "World War I and Wolrd War II." Many experts in the PKA agree that those two fights match up with anything in the top-ten of boxing's history.
I was an assitant coach for Cliff for 20 years and sort of took over when he came out of retirement in 2003 and won his 7th world championship. That was Under K.I.C.K. and the championship bouts were 10 rounds and not 12 like the PKA.
The PKA floundered because of some major problems in management but fortunately, ISKA picked up the pieces and kept the same rules and continued on for some 10 more years as the major player. Cliff won his 5th world title under ISKA after having 4 with the PKA. All are active today but they aren't as formidable as in the past. There is the WKA too and they are major players again. The UAE and other middle east countries are getting large in kickboxing as well as most of Europe, Japan, Korea and Australia. Holland has some super kickboxing champions and other fighters that are right at the championship level.
The 'Heyday's' of the PKA were spectacular. Moveie stars, politicians and other sports greats became fans. Cliff sold out every arena he fought in.
It was a shame that greed and ignorance got in the way. The PKA was rising fast and a threat to tv time versus boxing. Some back door stuff went on between boxing afficandos and the tv moguls resulting in kickboxing getting less coverage and consequently, less money.
Back to Octagon fighting. The fighters go 3 rounds in regular bouts and five rounds of five minutes each in championship bouts. The gloves are 4-6 ounces (way too small) and have openings for the fingers to grab an opponent. The ring is 38 feet across and 30 feet from point to point.
They punch, sweep, kick, knee, grapple, wrestle,elbow-except for elbow strikes with the point down, attempt to strike (box), and have ridiculous weight classes. For example, heavyweights can be 206-265. Yeah right, a 265 guy gets a takedown on a 206 guy and unless he is a near superman, his ass is kicked; it is a street fight and the little guy has too much weight on top of him. The big guy pummels away with his fists and maybe gets an armbar, a triangle or a guillotine to cause submission by the opponent who can tap out or verbally surrender. If a fight goes the distance, judges use the 10 point system.
Enough already for now. The new Kickboxing that is gaining popularity allows sweeps and knees to the body. You have probably seen Michael MacDonalds, etc., on tv. Their final championship is in Japan for a cool million.
Have a Happy

p.s. Boxing had better find someone besides Oscar De La Hoya to light up the pay per views or they will see the kickboxing and Octagon fighting cut into their revenues. It will take time but boxing will decline some 15-20% over the next decade or two if they don't find a savior. New Kids on the block you know.
Mon 09 Apr 2007 12:50:32
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To 'Hey Tom.'

No, Ultimate Fighting is a blood sport on the rise. It is even nastier and more brutal than boxing in my opinion. I can't believe it is a sanctioned sport. It was stopped in many states a few years back as it looked like "Human cockfighting." Royce Gracie of Brazil ruled for a few years. Hardly any rules at all and Gracie used his Gi to choke opponents out, even from the ground. Finally, because of the attraction of a new breed of bloodthirsty young maniacal fans, some bigwigs in politics, especially in Las Vegas and other powerful cities noting that the sport did have a blood cult appeal,(Mafioso)were likely made an offer they couldn't refuse and SHAZAM, the sport was okay-ed but they had to water down the rules to make it appear more represenatable.
Boxing has been banned here and in other countries throughout the years but has managed to go underground or through other channels to stay mainstream. Kickboxing (Some) on the other hand does not as Ultimate Fighting allows, use elbows to be thrown or in some cases, no knees except to the body.
Kickboxing started in Japan and later in Thailand. It was very brutal and allowed elbows, knees and strikes to the back of the head and even stomps in some cases.
American Kickboxing is a combination of Thai Kickboxing and Western Boxing in some organizations. There were a few organizations in the 60's that tried to get kickboxing off and runnning but they didn't have the powers in office and other areas to pull it off. Their rules were not uniform and they just didn't appeal to fans. Then along came Joe Corley and others and the PKA was born.
In the 70's, the PKA grew big and many of the champions went into the movies or became icons in America and Canada. Corley and his associates managed to get ESPN on line and after a few years, landed a deal with NBC and CBS. The PKA then grew by leaps and bounds and was the BIG GUN for kickboxing.
PKA rules made the sport exciting. A fighter couldn't sweep the legs, had to keep his kicks above the waist and there were no knees or elbows allowed. Participants had to practice their many higher techniques than what one sees in present day kickboxing that sllows knees to the body and sweeps. The rules made the sport unique.
It was a beautiful sport what with the high flying techniques, jump turn kicks, spinning backfists (Tommy Williams was so good)Jump roundhouses, jump backicks,spinning front kicks, crescent kicks, axe kicks, spinning hook kicks, jump side kicks (Oh how Davey Johnston could fly)spinning hook kicks plus the addition of every boxing
technique one could use and sometimes master.
Heavyweight Joe Lewis was one of the greatest PKA fighters of all time. So was Bill 'Superfoot' Wallace. So was Gordon Franks and 'King of the Bloodsport,' Paul Vizzio and many other greats-many in the movies the past 30 years. Cliff 'Magic' Thomas made that level too when he knocked out the undefeated Franks as a 20-1 underdog right here in El Paso in 1980. That made Cliff the first athlete in any sportfrom El Paso to win a world title.
Cliff later destroyed Vizzio on NBC Sportsworld and ESPN at the big casino on the Boardwalk in New Jersey. Cliff went on to win 7 world championshsips in 5 weight divisions. He not only beat every world champion he could line up against, he also kncoked most of them out. Tony Rosser was resilient and so well conditioned that he lasted 12 rounds with Cliff 3 times. He went down 5 times but would somehow be counted to 9 and make it up before the ref would stop the fight.
In my book, Magic! Magic! Magic! (website 'magicthomas.com), you can read how Cliff and Tony's fights were called "World War I and Wolrd War II." Many experts in the PKA agree that those two fights match up with anything in the top-ten of boxing's history.
I was an assitant coach for Cliff for 20 years and sort of took over when he came out of retirement in 2003 and won his 7th world championship. That was Under K.I.C.K. and the championship bouts were 10 rounds and not 12 like the PKA.
The PKA floundered because of some major problems in management but fortunately, ISKA picked up the pieces and kept the same rules and continued on for some 10 more years as the najor player. Cliff won his 5th world title under ISKA after having 4 with the PKA. All are active today but they aren't as formidable as in the past. There is the WKA too and they are major players again. The UAE and other middle east countries are getting large in kickboxing as well as most of Europe, Japan, Korea and Australia. Holland has some super kickboxing champions and other fighters that are right at the championship level.
The 'Heyday's' of the PKA were spectacular. Moveie stars, politicians and other sports greats became fans. Cliff sold out every arena he fought in.
It was a shame that greed and ignorance got in the way. The PKA was rising fast and a threat to tv time versus boxing. Some back door stuff went on between boxing afficandos and the tv moguls. That also led to kickboxing getting less coverage and consequently, less money.
Back to Octagon fighting. The fighters go 3 rounds in regular bouts and five rounds of five minutes each in championship bouts. The gloves are 4-6 ounces (way too small) and have openings for the fingers to grab an opponent. The ring is 38 feet across and 30 feet from point to point.
They punch, sweep, kick, knee, grapple, wrestle,elbow-except for elbow strikes with the point down, attempt to strike (box), and have ridiculous weight classes. For example, heavyweights can be 206-265. Yeah right, a 265 guy gets a takedown on a 206 guy and unless he is a near superman, his ass is kicked; it is a streetfight and the little guy has too much weight on top of him. the big guy pummels away with his fists and maye gets an armbar, a triangle or a guillotine to cause submission by tapping out or verbally. If a fight goes the distance, judges use the 10 point system.
Enough already for now. the new Kickboxing that is gaining p[opularity allows sweeps and knees to the body. You have probably seen Michael Mac/donals, etc., on tv. Their final championship is in Japan for a cool million.
Have a Happy

p.s. Boxing had better find someone besides Oscar De La Hoya to light up the pay per views or they will see the kickboxing and Octagon fighting cut into their revenues. It will take time but boxing will decline some 15-20% if they don't find a savior. New Kids on the block you know.
Sun 08 Apr 2007 10:13:13
Name : Hey Tom
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Is there a difference between kick boxing and ultimate fighting or are they one and the same?
Sat 07 Apr 2007 05:44:56
Name : Tom
Email : Google/Dogpile
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Crystal, Just google or dogpile in "tom mckay with cliff magic thomas' or cliff magic thomas with tom mckay.' Okay, have fun and Have A Happy.
Sat 07 Apr 2007 05:06:22
Name : Tom
Email : Snow here too
Message
Crystal, Ditto!!! We had a light snow. We also had terrible winds all night long and the temperature sunk some 20 degrees below normal.

My booksigning went well. Made over $250.00. Cliff didn't make it in from Ft. Worth and that hurt. However, I covered things well. I had my kids put on a rocking/socking workout. I couldn't do much myself because of my injured ribs but 16 year old Nathan Martinez put on a superb performance and Isaac Barrientos did the same. Every onlooker was just stunned by Nathan's gig on the speed bag. Every method you can think of was in his repertoire. He was amazing. We also did boxing techniques and some sparring in the L.A. Boxing ring. It was all Kudo's for my kids....And me too.

The weather was raining most of the morning with heavy winds. That kept our attendance down. Still, I sold many books and had a gala of a time.
I arrived home in time to catch the Wood Memorial and the Illinois Derby. Time flies so fast. It is nearly Kentucky Derby time again.

By the way, I have been such an avid horse fan that the Governor of Kentucky has made me a Kentucky Colonel. It is an elite club with top movie stars, athletes like Muhammed Ali, etc., in the mix. The club has a special deal and cookout for both the Kentucky Oaks and the Kentucky Derby-with discounts. So, since I have dreamed of but never attended a Kentucky Derby, next year, if I make it, we are planning on being there. Oh, what happiness if I make it. It has been a passion of mine for decades. Jimminy Crickets,I am so thrilled about the opportunity. And you can call me Colonel Tom McKay if you please. I have the confirmation.

Say my good woman, you haven't checked out out the chance to buy my limited edition book. It is certainly different from other how-to books. Imagine if you will, a youth born with a hole in his heart the size of a silver dollar, operated on a few years down the line while running a 104 fever, sewed up with a 142 stictches etched across his chest in the form of a cross and his parents told that if he didn't do anything strenuous, the youngster might live to age 13 or 14.
So, the youngster was labeled a sissy and picked on by other boys until he was 14. "What the heck" he said, as he knew the circumstances but joined up in a karate gym. The rest is recorded history. At age 22 he won his first world kickboxing championship as a 20-1 underdog to udefeated champion, Gordon Franks. He went on to win 7 world championships in 5 weight divisions and retired his last belt at age 48. No one ever put him on the canvass and he even knocked out the 'King of The Bloodsport," the amazing Paul Vizzio.
Sounds like fiction and a ready made movie, eh? No, it is Cliff 'Magic' Thomas, the main character and subject of my book, "Magic! Magic! Magic!
I was an assistant coach of his for over 20 years and I was there in 1980 when he became the 1st El Pasoan to win a world title in any sport. I was there for the 7th as well.
Have A Happy

magicthomas.com tmckay@elp.rr.com
Sat 07 Apr 2007 05:05:46
Name : Tom
Email : Snow here too
Message
Crystal, Ditto!!! We had a light snow. We also had terrible winds all night long and the temperature sunk some 20 degrees below normal.

My booksigning went well. Made over $250.00. Cliff didn't make it in from Ft. Worth and that hurt. However, I covered things well. I had my kids put on a rcoking/socking workout. I couldn't do much myself because of my injured ribs but 16 year old Nathan Martinez put on a superb performance and Isaac Barrientos did the same. Every onlooker was just stunned by Nathan's gig on the speed bag. Every method you can think of was in his repertoire. He was amazing. We also did boxing techniques and some sparring in the L.A. Boxing ring. It was all Kudo's for my kids....And me too.

The weather was raining most of the morning with heavy winds. That kept our attendance down. Still, I sold many books and had a gala of a time.
I arrived home in time to catch the Wood Memorial and the Illinois Derby. Time flies so fast. It is nearly Kentucky Derby time again.

By the way, I have been such an avid horse fan that the Governor of Kentucky has made me a Kentucky Colonel. It is an elite club with top movie stars, athletes like Muhammed Ali, etc., in the mix. The club has a special deal and cookout for both the Kentucky Oaks and the Kentucky Derby-with discounts. So, since I have dreamed of but never attended a Kentucky Derby, next year, if I make it, we are planning on being there. Oh, what happiness if I make it. It has been a passion of mine for decades. Jimminy Crickets,I am so thrilled about the opportunity. And you can call me Colonel Tom McKay if you please. I have the confirmation.

Say my good woman, you haven't checked out out the chance to buy my limited edition book. It is certainly different from other how-to books. Imagine if you will, a youth born with a hole in his heart the size of a silver dollar, operated on a few years down the line while running a 104 fever, sewed up with a 142 stictches etched across his chest in the form of a cross and his parents told that if he didn't do anything strenuous, the youngster might live to age 13 or 14.
So, the youngster was labeled a sissy and picked on by other boys until he was 14. "What the heck" he said, as he knew the circumstances but joined up in a karate gym. The rest is recorded history. At age 22 he won his first world kickboxing championship as a 20-1 underdog to udefeated champion, Gordon Franks. He went on to win 7 world championships in 5 weight divisions and retired his last belt at age 48. No one ever put him on the canvass and he even knocked out the 'King of The Bloodsport," the amazing Paul Vizzio.
Sounds like fiction and a ready made movie, eh? No, it is Cliff 'Magic' Thomas, the main character and subject of my book, "Magic! Magic! Magic!
I was an assistant coach of his for over 20 years and I was there in 1980 when he became the 1st El Pasoan to win a world title in any sport. I was there for the 7th as well.
Have A Happy

magicthomas.com tmckay@elp.rr.com
Sat 07 Apr 2007 02:16:20
Name : Crystal
Email : Tom
Message
I love that! I love your story & wish you both the best. We've got a little SNOW FLURRY going on in Dallas. Unbelievable!
Fri 06 Apr 2007 11:55:39
Name : Tom
Email : Songs About Mexico
Message
Sorry Crystal, I rushed that last post. Hey, it is getting late and my Mexican Beauty is tired and I have a big day tomorrow. Time for some huggy bear as a cold wave is rolling through El Paso.
So, for a nightcap, I thought we and maybe you will enjoy this song about a cowboy in Mexico. Oh, I like Kenny and George's songs too, especially Eddy Raven and "I Got Mexico."
But this catchy tune really relates to us and it is good. Really good. Have a peek.
Blaine Larsen

"I Don't Know What She Said"

No hablo espanol Was all I knew of the local lingo
That old pocket guide to Mexico Wasn't much help to this out of place Gringo

When I checked into my motel room
Was helped by a brown-eyed senorita
She said, Buen venidos, Senor Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
Como estas, Buenos dias.

I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it
A little voice in my head said
Boy, you won't ever forget it

They say that Spanish is the language of love
Well, I love the way that it rolled off her tongue
I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it

As I followed her down the hallway
I was trying my best not to stare
The angel before me was a rare beauty indeed
Jay-Lo had nothing on her

She winked and she smiled at me sweetly
Said, Senor, aqu esta su mas vez
Muy guapo, and something about ho ho's
And I thought, oh, baby, whatever you say

I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it
A little voice in my head said
Boy, you won't ever forget it

They say that Spanish is the language of love
Well, I love the way that it rolled off her tongue
I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it

Later that evening in a local cantina
A Mariachi band was playing
She held me close so her body would know
That my body knew what she was saying

I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it
A little voice in my head said
Boy, you won't ever forget it

They say that Spanish is the language of love
Well, I love the way that it rolled off her tongue
I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it

No, I don't know what she said
But I sure liked the way that she said it

Have A Happy
Fri 06 Apr 2007 06:53:57
Name : Tom
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Crystal, Lety is originally from Mexico. She was bounced around as a child like so many of us during hard times. She was even in an orphanage as I was in WW2, She learned the pahrmacy trade before coming to the USA with a Green Card and nine years later she obrained citizenship
I met her in 1988 and we were married a year later. We didn't even kiss for four months of dating. I was an older man and enjoyed her company, her smarts, her business acumen,her dancing, her beauty, her smile and her almond eyes, eyes made of wonder. Most of all, I enjoyed the fact that she wasn't hung up on religion. That was huge in my heart and mind.
Lety worked some factories and went to the community college for two years. After I met her, she went to school to be a nail tech and then later took the state exam and went to work. she has a reputation as one of the best in El Paso.
With my cancer and ONJ, I thought it would be worth while for her to pursue a real college degree at UTEP. She agreed and she cut back her work and scores of clients were upset. So was our bank account. She was making some 40 grand a year and that has been decimated three times over what with her working only one day a week. Besides, we spend some 15 gand a year for classes and over a 150 a week for supplies, etc. We don't get money like the so-called low income familes. the system is so screwed up that if we ere just living together, all the college would be free. So, her hard work and my savings have at least paid her way to be a senior with a 3.5 GPA. That i just outstanding. Her major requires more out of class time than any other major. She is getting a BFA. Damn, it is wating both of us but on the other hand, it si so creative.
She was not born with the talent. Shush, I dread hearing that from people wqhen they view her work. She has busted her ass to be talented.
Anyway, more later, I have chores and a book signing tomorrow.
Have a Happy
Thu 05 Apr 2007 08:05:52
Name : Crystal
Email : Tom
Message
You all, not y'all mind you, are a ways from Dallas! I would love to come meet you one day. What is it your wife does?
Wed 04 Apr 2007 02:34:42
Name : Tom
Email : Easing The Pain
Message
Crystal & Goofy George,

Many thanks Mariners. Every little bit makes the pain a little less agonizing. Crystal, I have so many obligations and your right, I haven't been taking good care of myself. I have to overcome gravity and get chores done. My book signing this Saturday is a must.
Have A Happy...Come see us..and my wife's exciting art.
Wed 04 Apr 2007 11:34:29
Name : goofy george
Email : that smarts
Message
Gravity is not kind these days. Hope you mend as quickly as possible!
Tue 03 Apr 2007 07:07:05
Name : Crystal
Email : Tom
Message
Take care, Tom. Most guys will "tough it out" and cause more problems. I know, you're a smart man - but you are a man. I say this as a wife & a person in the medical field. :)

I wish you the best in your recuperation!
Sun 01 Apr 2007 09:48:50
Name : Tom
Email : Ouchy
Message
Fell in my home five days ago and punctured some flesh and broke a rib high up. Hurts!!! Hard to breathe and nearly impossible to sleep. Time!! Sure hope it heals over time. I had enough pain going with the ONJ. All I needed was to compound the issue. Shucks, I'll make it, I guarantee. Back later with some snappy science news.
Have a Happy............And Don't Fall
Sun 01 Apr 2007 09:48:24
Name : Tom
Email : Ouchy
Message
Fell in my home five days ago and punctured some flesh and broke a rib high up. Hurts!!! Hard to breathe and nearly impossible to sleep. Time!! Sure hope it heals over time. I had enough pain going with the ONJ. All I needed was to compund the issue. Shucks, I'll make it, I guarantee. Back later with some snappy science news.
Have a Happy............And Don't Fall
Sun 25 Mar 2007 05:44:01
Name : Tom
Email : Spices
Message
Hee Haw, It was nostalgia time. I just needed to put a little salt and pepper on the site as it has been way too bland lately.
HAve A Happy
Sun 25 Mar 2007 05:43:47
Name : Tom
Email : Spices
Message
Hee Haw, I was nostalgia time. I just needed to put a little salt and pepper on the site as it has been way too bland lately.
HAve A Happy
Sun 25 Mar 2007 02:53:25
Name : To Randall
Email :
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You could havbe asked me that and I would have answered "yes."
Fri 23 Mar 2007 10:25:36
Name : Tom
Email :
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Randall, I haven't seen you post at the website for Cliff 'Magic' thomas and I. It is <magicthomas.com>
Have a Happy
Fri 23 Mar 2007 10:03:26
Name : Tom
Email : Continued for Randall
Message
Finally back to the necessary story: I didn't know Jack about Fort Stockton. On a weekend when off work from MA Bell,I drove my 1953 Buick Roadmaster to the town to see what all the fuss was about. As a youngster who had an alcoholic father that was killed at the end of WW2, and whose Mother, older sister and older brother, all worked two jobs to try and survive, it is true that three of us children were put in St. Margaret's Orphanage in Ysleta, Texas. After we were out of that disgusting place with the mean and bitchy nuns, life got better.
We lived in one room for a spell, in an attic, in a housing project and finally in a basement on Upson Street in El Paso. But life was good except for those peanut butter sandwiches for lunch and powdered milk and bread for supper-many, many times. Oh, and beans from the County once a week.
What all that has to do with our inheritance and why I went to Ft. Stockton is simple. Mom never had time to tell us about our relatives in Ft. Stockton or we never paid attention. Moreover, we were kids, not very well clothed kids, but kids nevertheless. As such, we just wanted to play and steal fruit from the trees when Spring and Summer arrived; and get enough money from odd jobs to eat a hamburger or Coney once in a blue moon; or better yet, save a quarter and go the the movies with serials on Saturday morning for nine cents and afterwords a 12 inch coney. Man, that was living. I didn't care one iota about our family history-except as a 22 year old and wondering what in the hell did I sign. Mom had given me a breifing that I actually listened to before I took off on the trip.
When I arrived in Ft. Stockton, my cousin from the wealthy side of the family, Nita Lou Riggs, took one look at me and later told me she nearly fell in love with me. I was a WAPO in those days. Better yet, she introduced me to Betty Dyson, her best friend. We hung out together all Friday and Saturday and I visited the museum where we had actually lived during the Great Depression. It is quite appealing and many a western writer and artist spent time there, especially when the area was outlaw country.
I liked what was going on, especially riding around with Nita and Betty, one of the local high school queens. I didn't like the fact that the memorial plaque outside the museum entry way only had the Riggs names. Our family was Annie's first family. That han't change to this day although I used to make requests. the Rigg' are still heavy players in Ft. Stockton.
Barney died maliciously as he had lived. Buck Chadbourne, married to one of Annie's daughters by Johnson,killed Barney with a shotgun when the old drunken gunfighter had too much alcohol after Annie filed for divorce and had confronted her.
I only learned a little family history then as I was head over heels in love with Betty. A year later she became my wife. I had to whip an old boyfriend first. He was a college QB but easy prey for me even though he was over 200 pounds to my 160.

Betty and I had 3 children. I moved to Odessa, Texas when her father died, probably from the shock of marrying me. I was convinced to stay and help her mom. I went to work for the Butadiene Plant and started in the labor pool and worked my way up to Instrumentman but hated Odessa. Finally, I received an offer from Aetna Life Insurance Company and took it. I spent 5 months schooling at their home in Hartford, Connecticut. It was demanding but such a wonderful learning experience. I know it set me up for college. And I loved working for them but things wern't too well at home and after only six months as an inurance estate planner, I was on the El Paso Police Department. Ten yearslater, a friends wife that I despise, made fun of me because her husband had a degree and I didn't Okay, I took up the challenge, went to school full time while working all night as a policeman, still doing my pest control busines, coaching boxing, coaching optimist football and baseball, and still dancing when I had the opportunity. I really love to dance with my women and hold them so tight; as if our bodies were one.

Uh Oh, I gotta go. The love of my life, Letticia is on the way home. And just wait till we finish the children's book. Her art is going to knock your eye teeth out. And maybe we will dance tonite in the kitchen to Kenny Chesney or Rocio Durcall.

To be continued......

Have A Happy
Fri 23 Mar 2007 10:02:58
Name : Tom/Ft. Stockton/MArriag/Museum
Email : Water and A Lot of Other Stuff
Message
Randall, I have been with the neurologist half the day and the other half getting prescriptions, doing odd jobs and delivering 4 of my books to callers. And now back to you.

You are driving at something here and I'm not sure just what you are driving at.Without a shadow of a doubt, especially concerning a man like yourself who is evidently both wise at times and intelligent all the time, you already know the answer. And if not, you can Google it. For what it's worth here is the basic skinny: "H2O is the only natural solution for which the solid is less denser than the liquid form." Now that said, you can get a basics physics book at Barnes & Nobles are even on line and find some interesting experiments with solutions like glass, bismuth, gallium and what have you to be enthralled. I'm giving you the basic premise which I am positive about....you already know.

Come on, I would love for some pre-teens to ask me that question if they weren't into computers. Too, I was a biologist but I still hang my hat with physics, cosmology, archaeology, geology and what I wish I could have had an opportunity to study as a young man, paleontology. I do take all the monthly publications of those sciences.

I have also been involved in entomology for some 25 plus years of my life. From 1959-1975 I was the owner of Able Pest Control Company. I took the PCO courses from Purdue to get my qualifications. The tests were proctored at UTEP. I did 2 years, got my certification with a 94.6 average and 9 hours of advanced college credit in Entomology. I did that part-time while working full time as either a policeman, Sgt. In Charge of Criminal Investigations for UTEP, Acting chief of Police for UTEP, coach and science teacher at Marion Manor Middle School, coach, biology and honors biology teacher at Austin High School for 25 years. I graduated from UTEP at age 37 and the oldest ever 'Top-ten Senior.' I attained my Masters in 1975 witha 4.0 average.I was offered a fellowship to rutgers for a doctorate but my son coming down with Leukemia and a divorce shattered that dream. I always wanted to be a college professor, especially in a state like California.I also sold my company after the heartbreaking divorce.
To help offset the cost of child support, I also worked part time at the International Bridges, worked as a private detective, and was doing so and bringing back a prisoner from Houston to El Paso when John F. Kennedy was murdered by Lee Harvey Oswald.
I was at Sierra Blanca, Texas when that shocking incident occurred and I immediately drove over to the Sheriff's Department in that town to watch the proceeedings on tv with the local law enforcement officers. Why even my prisoner cried and weeped. So did I and my partner, David Rodriguez (I trained his son for 10 years and he is a 22-0 heavyweight and the current Texas Boxing champion.
My business was licensed in Texas and I made more money from it than I did the full time jobs. I had an office in a trailer house on a busy street here in El Paso, Montana Ave.
I got more credentials this way: After I was honorably discharged from the marines, I went back to my job at Mountain Bell Telephone Company. I was only 22 but an installer/repairman. But a trip to Fort Stockton, Texas was in the making and changed my life entirely from what I had planned.
You see, while in the marines, I received a letter overseas from my Mother, who had just a few years earlier married a Catholic Brother about to be ordained a priest- and coincidence of coincidences, he was born in the same 400 person populated little town of Balmorhea, Texas just like me. Anyway, the letter had a form attached. It was a form regarding heirs of frontier woman, Annie Johnson Riggs, and stipulated that her old and famous hotel in Ft. Stockton was going to become a museum and since my brothers and sisters were heirs, we had to sign away any of our rights to the property to make it eligble to become a museum. Annie Johnson, before Riggs, was my great grandmother. After she divorced Johnson, she married outlaw and lawman, Barney Riggs. Barney is famous in Pecos, Texas for killing off some of the Jim Miller Gang and sending Miller hightailing it out of the county. Many believe that Miller killed Pat Garrett. Miller did indeed kill my great uncle, Sheriff Bud Frazer in am ambush while Bud played cards in Toyah, Texas. Barney went to prison for killing a man he thought was having an affair with his wife on a ranch outside Yuma, Arizona. He was sentenced to life in the Yuma Territorial Prison, a real hot hell hole to be sure. He got a pardon when the warden was attacked by a gang of Mxicans inside the prison and Barney helped free him by killing the one stabbing the warden. so, he went in prison for a killing and he got out for a killing.
Pardon my straying, I am nostalgic tonite.

Fri 23 Mar 2007 12:20:35
Name : Randall
Email :
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So, would it be accurate to say that water is the only liquid that does not become more dense when cooled into a solid?
Tue 20 Mar 2007 10:09:31
Name : Tom
Email : Dogpile
Message
Go to 'Dogpile.com' and write in Cliff Thomas with Tom Mckay. Or Tom Mckay with Cliff Thomas. Cliff Thomas with Paul vizzio.' Cliff Thomas with Randall 'Tex' Cobb. Whatever.
Have A Happy
Tue 20 Mar 2007 10:04:21
Name : Tom
Email : Another Goody
Message
Abel Rodriguez just called and he is going to also make it happen with Barnes and Nobles. Another call came from Pasodale School and we are negotiating a speaking engagement and book sale there. Another call for Odessa, Texas. Another call from a huge campus with delinquents just called. Another call from Meeks Karate, a huge school, just called. Another book signing is April 7th at L.A. Boxing. another book signing at the big stateline steakhouse is in the works. ETC.
Have A Happy
Tue 20 Mar 2007 10:01:05
Name : Tom
Email : Way To go
Message
Cliff and I received 3 standing ovations at the Rotary Club dinner and booksigning. And now requests are flying in as the word is out about the motivation speeches we gave. We don't mind being alittle narcissitic about our performance. It felt good and for Cliff it was like the old world championship mdays.
Abel Rodriguez,one of the most prominent radio and tv people in the area was absolutely captivated. He had never seen even one standing ovation at a rotary function much less three. He is negotiating with Cliff to see if his companies can do a documentary.
Have A Happy
Tom
Sat 17 Mar 2007 11:39:18
Name : No douby about it
Email :
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Right now Randall is stripping naked and his bathtub faucet is runnig full blast.
Sat 17 Mar 2007 11:31:22
Name : Tom
Email : Seize the moment??? I think
Message
Randall, Happy St. Pats. Just arrived home from a little party.
About the ice cube. Come on, you know the answer. However, for funs, just fill your bath tub to near overflowing and step in. Okay, how much water was displaced. Next, put the same amount of your weight with ice and measure the displacement as yours. Next, if you could be frozen with all your molecules and dumped in a swimming pool, would you float or sink? What time periods would be involved? If you were thrown in alcohol, would you float or sink?
Now surely, what happened to the water molecules when it turned to ice? Yes, the equal upward force on an object in a fluid is equal to the weight of the fluid it displaces. If this force is greater than the downward force of gravity it displaces, it will push the object up until it reaches the point where gravity and the buoyant force are equal.
Simply put,ice has a lower density (sg)(not higher)than liquid water at temperatures equal to or less than zerp degrees Centigrade, the melting point of ice.
Do ice molecules remain the same number as when it was liquid water? What change, if any, did they undergo? Did you take the alcohol test? N, that would be simply stupid. However, you can toss some ice cubes into a glass of alcohol and witness the results. Answer why the ice did what it did? The real neat question of displacement is with ships made of steel.
What about objects that can both float and sink? Name some.How does the physics apply?

Have A Happy...No Green Beer..unless you want to get the beer that ice sinks in?????

What about illusions of heavy materials floating in water? I didn't say delusions...which happens to be a major problem with so-called civilization.

Have A Happy
Sat 17 Mar 2007 05:10:36
Name : Randall
Email :
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If higher densities sink in lower, why do ice cubes float in water?
Thu 15 Mar 2007 08:23:41
Name : Tom
Email :
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Wow! The rotary Club gave Cliff and I a feast yesterday at the country club. And we sold $500 worth of books, Hooray!!!
Have A Happy
Tue 13 Mar 2007 10:09:18
Name : Tex
Email : Tom
Message
Thanks!
Sat 03 Mar 2007 10:07:09
Name : Tom
Email : Little Hobbits Could Hunt Quite Well
Message
Oh Tex, Someone already answered the Q. But, if you google, go right ahead and put in 'floresienis.' So interesting. Hobbit type hunters in Indonesia's Flores Islands. They were in competition with modern humans...possibly. Enjoy.
Have A Happy
Sat 03 Mar 2007 10:00:11
Name : Tom
Email : Racing Fan
Message
Greetings horseracing fans (You know how big I am about that). Today was the day that Lava Man made a part of history at Santa Anita Park. He was the 3rd horse in history ro win the Santa Anita Handicap in back to back years.

The amazing thing is that Lava Man was claimed for 50 grand a couple of years back. Since then he has won 9 straight races in California on both turf and dirt and bankrolled nearly 5 million dollars.Today he won 600 grand out of a 1 million dollar purse. He is the Sweetheart of California racing. Read the sports page tomorrow. Remember Seabiscuit? John Henry? Oh well, everybody has their own thing.

I love my horseracing over football and baseball. I don't even watch basketball even though I coached the sport years ago and my teams were always winners.

There were other big races today. Most are preps to help owners and trainers decide if they have a shot at the first Saturday in May.That is when horseracing has it's biggest event, "The Run For The Roses" or the Kentucky Derby.

More later, I have some meds to take.
Have a Happy
Sat 03 Mar 2007 09:16:07
Name : Texas
Email : Tom
Message
What was that about the skeleton? I'm going to google it...
Sat 03 Mar 2007 08:16:47
Name : What?
Email :
Message
Tom, I don't think there's a person here that has the faintest idea what you are talking about.
Sat 03 Mar 2007 11:59:25
Name : Tom
Email : Big Racing Day
Message
Back from the hospital. Did some tests and will have to wait for results. Meanwhile, a big day for equines. Check out Santa Anita and Gulfstream Park, Things are gearing up for the Kentucky Derby hopefuls. Take a gander. Oh, the greatst claim in horseracing history, Lava Man, will be the favored one today in the Big Cap at Santa Anita. Check out the weights. Lava man is vulnerable today even though he hardly ever loses a race in Californa.
Imagine getting Lava Man for around 65 grand a few years back? What has this former claimer done? How about earning over 4 million? Some tough old horse, eh?
Have A Happy
Sat 24 Feb 2007 07:53:44
Name : Tom
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Today Lety and I are celebrating our 17th anniversary. We met 18 1/2 years ago. What a lovely, memorable, mysterious and wondrous ride it has been for this old Mariner. She is so much like the class of 54 Babe that Henry posted but much, much younger. Still, I have had so many good times versus the bad ones. And though the river of my life now narrows to a stream, I certainly have have had the benefits of an ocean.
I apologize for getting somewhat sentimental and nostalgic but one has to brag now and then and Hank has given us the space for that privilege. Thanks Hank.
Sat 24 Feb 2007 07:53:29
Name : Tom
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Today Lety and I are celebrating our 17th anniversary. We met 18 1/2 years ago. What a lovely, memorable, mysterious and wondrous ride it has been for this old Mariner. She is so much like the class of 54 Babe that Henry posted but much, much younger. Still, I have had so many good times versus the bad ones. And though the river of my life now narrows to a stream, I certainly have have had the benefits of an ocean.
I apologize for getting somewhat sentimental and nostalgic but one has to brag now and then and Hank has given us the space for that privilege. Thanks Hank.
Wed 14 Feb 2007 11:44:29
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b. yep. It was a repeat but I was just checking.
Have a Happy
Wed 14 Feb 2007 01:37:07
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HOBBITS!
Mon 12 Feb 2007 10:58:10
Name : Tom
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Thats's funny. I'll wait a while before tipping you off. Hmmm?
Mon 12 Feb 2007 08:45:11
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Nope, don't know the little rascal, do you?
Sun 11 Feb 2007 11:48:02
Name : Tom
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Do you know the little skeleton that was thought to be human but is now going to be placed in a class all by itself?
Sun 04 Feb 2007 10:54:52
Name : Tom
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Hmmm? Manning did well even though the weather was rough. His receivers dropped many balls, likely due to the threat of getting hammered.
Indy didn't put Chicago away though until the 4th quarter even though they dominated the game-except for the first kickoff return by Hester. That guy is dangerous to say the least.
Both defenses played pretty damned good. Too bad there was so many turnovers. As such, it was not a memorable game. But, the Colts have a ring for the first time.
Lety barbecued today. The steaks and sides were just excellent. Yummy. Magic Thomas was here and he lost the wager. He had the bears and I had Indy. Tomorrow we will sell some more books. Get yours, it is a limited edition.
Have a Happy
Sun 28 Jan 2007 09:52:04
Name : Tom
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Enjoyed the kickboxing fights last nite and the great party afterwards. The band, 'Papa Top' was just superb. I got my dose of AC/DC, Aerosmith, Cheap Trick, ZZ Top, Jimmy Hendricks, The Beetles, The Eagles and just about any great band you can name. A dad and son lead guitar duo just blew us away. the kid is just 14 and can he get the licks and riffs? Oh Baby, and Daddy is just a full Master of his art.
My book is already a hot ticket. Cliff signed and Lety and I sold them Hee Haw!!!! Damn good fights too. Looking at a new promoter who is going to make it big again in the Southwest.

If it wasn't for the good times, I would be looking to move from this over-taxed city and the extreme cost of health care.

Anyway, Have a happy. We sure did at the Cockpit Lounge after the fight....again. Oh, Lety and I are going to corroborate on a children's art book this summer if my health holds up.
Sat 27 Jan 2007 12:09:45
Name : Tom
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Hot-Dickety-Damn, What a great party after the weigh-ins. Fantastic food, superb comaraderie and a classic rock band that would knock your socks off. And tomorrow, after the fights, we do the whole thing over again. I haven't had so much fun in quite a spell. And the Cockpit Lounge was crowded asshole to bellybutton. I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't 300 people there.
I met some really good people too. From California, Arizona, New Mexico, Dallas, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Colorado. Excellent fighters and trainers were there. Many stars of tomorrow were there. National champions and a couple of world champions. Oh baby, tomorrow is going to be extraordinarily exciting.

Have a Happy
Fri 26 Jan 2007 06:32:35
Name : Tom
Email : Cockpit Lounge In El Paso
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Tomorrow is the big day for our book signing. It will be at the Speaking Rock Casino. And some great fights will be on the card. Tonite are the weigh-ins at the Cockpit Lounge. That is going to be fun too.
If you want a book, order from me or go to magicthomas.com and order from paypal.
The book is really fine this time around...for sure. See the new cover at the website.
Have A Happy
Fri 19 Jan 2007 10:18:44
Name : Tom
Email : 2nd edition of 'Magic!' book.
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Yippee! I was told by the publisher that I will have some books next Tuesday or Wednesday. I was supposed to have them last week. This serious ice storm has hampered the shipping. I sure hope they arrive as I have a major books signing engagement at SPEAKING ROCK CASINO in El Paso during some championship kickboxing fights. About 2000 people usually attend. We are having huge rain and ice storms and they will last for a number of days. I sure hope we get clear weather. I might sell some 50-100 books that evening if the weather is good. And I personally believe this book is of top notch caliber. It is going to be fun selling it. Following are some of the places I have lined up for book signings:
1. Jan 27, Speaking Rock Casino. Championship Kickboxing Show. 2000 fans expected.Cliff and I are also special guests for the show.
2. Marty Robbins Rec Center. We will have free hot dogs and sodas plus film. InApril TBA.
3. L.A. Boxing of El Paso. Also Free Hot Dogs, Hanburgers and Sodas.TBA (April)
4. State Line Famous Steakhouse. (April-May TBA.
5. Hollywood Davis boxing/Karate Gym and Dojo, Odessa, Texas, TBA.
6. Texas State Kickboxing Championships, Dallas (June, exact date TBA).
7. Jiu-Jitsu of El Paso, March or April. Hot dogs and sodas.
8. AKKA Karate of El Paso, TBA.
9. America's Best Karate (One of the largest Dojo's in the United States and where Cliff now manages), TBA.
10. Westside Kickboxing, grappling and boxing. TBA
More to announce later.
Have A Happy
Thu 18 Jan 2007 03:04:12
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Uh Oh, looks like we are going to get some of that Winter storm. We are supposed to have rain, sleet and snow today and through Saturday. And of course, with the cold weather like that, ice on the streets.
I am quite busy but hope to post soon about the amazing find that might link Homo sapiens to Neanderthals. Too interesting.
Have a Happy
Wed 03 Jan 2007 11:14:01
Name : Tom
Email : Old El Paso and MArty Robbins
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GE, It snowed yesterday. It has been cold, drizzly, sometimes sunny and mostly dreary. However, this is better than the winds that will start real soon and keep coming for four months and more. Still, we will have a good amount of nice days. And then the heat, just like Dallas. I can't afford even a trailer in California so I do the best I can. I do love September, October and November in El Paso.
What is nasty is the taxes we pay. That and the darn Baby-Boomers from California and Oregon who come here and pay bloated prices for real estate and make our taxes even higher. Homes that sold for 60 grand two years ago are going for 140-50 grand now. Homes that were country club styles, 175 grand two years ago, are now 300-500 grand. All that and UTEP raising tuition out of site. The powers that be seem to think we are Harvard on the border.
And there is a rush to move here by retiree's. Well, maybe Albuquerque and Phoenix first and then El Paso. How in the name of comfort would anybody want to live in Phoenix? It is over-crowded, over-priced, hotter than a firecracker, full of hard-core criminals and gangs, murders every damn day,and dispicable driving conditions (Cal's don't mind that I guess). Albuquerque is scenic but has more gangs than San Antonio, El Paso and Tucson put together. If our leaders want a war, why not start at home? Wouldn't it be nice to have the National Guard stay home and clean out our own vicious problems?
Anyway, have a happy and no, I don't want to live in Dallas. We have a good deal here in El Paso. We have outstanding horse racing about six months a year. And a casino. Ruidoso is only a couple of hours drive; ah, those mountains and trees. Mexico and New Mexico are next door. We have the second oldest bowl game, the Sun Bowl. We have a great and talented art community. We have Ft. Bliss, McGregor Range and we are even close to Carlsbad Caverns. We have Rodeo's and concerts galore. Oh, I love concerts. We have theatre and I even got a part when I was 50. I played the preacher , Jeremiah Brown, in the 4th most paid play, "Inherent The Wind." It was difficult work and such long, long hours of practice. Yet, it was a once in a liftime deal and I can honestly say "it made me feel so, so, so goood." If I was young and single, and naturally as good-looking as I was (* El Wapo), the I might give acting a shot. Maybe if there is reincarnation.
And we have Rosa's Cantina...remember Marty Robbins? He was just fantastic and an athlete to boot. If you like dog racing, it is in Juarez as is the Market where we have a special lunch we make ourselves along with a couple of Tecates.
There is Old Mesilla just over an hour away. White Sands is two hours The Aerospace Museum in Alamorgodo is an hour and a half. Las Cruces has multiple events we attend. And we have the best enchiladas anywhere...right here in my house, made by Lety or her Mother. Yummy!!
I'll tell you more good things about El Paso later.
Have A Happy
Tue 02 Jan 2007 10:15:41
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Happy New Year, Tom. How's the weather down your way? Dallas can't figure itself out...
Tue 02 Jan 2007 12:40:25
Name : Blue Field
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Just when I thought the bowl games couldn't get much better,Boise, the WAC underdog pulls a stunning upset over Oklahoma by going for 2 in OT and winning it on a Statue Of Liberty Play from the 1930's called by the two back up QB's. Could you believe it???? And who would have thunk it when Zanbrazky was intercepted by the Sooners with a little over a minute to go and hung up 7 on them at 35-28. But it was a spot pass and the receiver blew the play. No big deal, Zambrazky drives them close and on a huge fourth down, or game over, pitched a perfect strike to a receiver on a hook and lateral done to perfection and score tied. OT. Yes Baby, and Adrain Petersen scored on the first play for the Sooners and it looked like the upset was going to be short. Not to worry, on 4th down and chances looking slim, a handoff went to a wide receiver who pulled up quickly and threw a perfect strike to his big tight end to get six. And then came the killer strike. Since Boise has beat UTEP every single year we played them (another reason we left the WAC) I knew they used that old play. They used it once this year, against Idaho. Strange thing, Boise runs all their modified razzle-dazzle plays to perfection. They hardly ever fail. And they hit those three late in the game to absolute perfection.
Here is something to think about. Lowly New Mexico State, who lost like 16 straight games over the last two years, had Boise on the ropes and only some last minute heroics by Boise and their razzle-dazzle plays enabled them the win. Maybe they took State lightly as Oklahoma did Boise. But that isn't the real truth. Boise was just as physical as Oklahoma and was never intimidated. And I am thinking that New Mexico State, who does have one hell of a good QB in Chas Holbrook, is going to get some revenge on UTEP next year. We barely got by them this year after blowing them out last year. The outcome is likely to change next year. Hal Mummy's got some good recruits over there at State.

Now if only Florida will bust Ohio States offense into shreds and makes enough plays to win and maybe Boise will end up in 3rd behind SC. Ohio State and Michigan could both drop to 5th or lower. Wouldn't that be great?
Have A Happy
Mon 01 Jan 2007 08:36:43
Name : Tom
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...Did USC ever drill the Spartans. Geez, just what team did show up against UCLA? Florida State manhandled UCLA. Go figure.
When USC is on, they are not going to lose. However, the Buckeyes likely will be National champions. Consider though that Florida would be undefeated if not for the robbery at Auburn. Don't give
the trophy to the Buckeyes just yet. Gotta play the game. And how long has it been since State played a game?? and I think Florida can match them in speed.
Oh, USC has need of a better kicking game if they hope to contend all the way next year. That is a real sore spot. If this had been a nailbiter, I don't think they would have the right stuff under pressure. Yeah, they had a bunch of field goals but it was never a sure thing. And those poor punts????
Anyway, what a win against #2. Sadly, Carr may be kicked out because of the loss. Isn't that something, get ranked #2, barely lose to Ohio State in Ohio and have your job on the line?? I wish we could get him here in El Paso. Evidently, our big-named coach, Price didn't do jack this year. We had a senior laden team and were picked to win it all. Yeah, we won 5 games. And our conference leaders got their butts whipped in every bowl game. We left the WAC and now I know why. We thought we could dominate a weaker conference. HA!!The WAC kicked ass in bowl games this year. Hawaii embarrassed Arizona State.
Price has evidently had designs on using UTEP as a stepping stone back to bigger things. He rode previous coach, Gary Nord's, recruits to two 8-4 seasons and people were calling him a genius. Oh sure, he got our butts kicked good in both bowl appearances. And this year was a real flop. His own recruits were no shows in every game. I have to guess that he thought the seniors could win big without coaching since he and his sons were all out searching for jobs. And he had his eyes set on Arizona State. He got bumped and deservedly so. He has never had three winning seasons in a row. Of course, since we can't win but 2-5 games a season for a spell before he came, folks here were happy to go 8-4. However, expectations were high this year and we were a total bust. We even lost to a 1-9 team.
When a talk radio host saw through the smokescreen, he was chastised by the community and the other media. Seems he was right on target.
We have been the proving grounds in both football and basketball for coaches looking to move up the financial ladder and that is okay to a point. We have raised the students tuitions and other costs enormously to bring in a high level all-knowing, great recruiting coach. In actuality, Price's mild success has been due to Gary Nords recruits. And with the coach and his sons spending a lot of time and energy looking elsewhere for jobs, our team evidently didn't get the necessary preparation to be competitive. We stunk.
Anyway, that is my opinion and I do get the Arizona newspaper enough to see how it all played out. Price wasn't their main choice and it must have hurt. Now he is stuck with us border bums and I for one don't see the recruits that can win next year. Oh yeah, and we have ponied up money from kids trying to get a real education to have this super coach win five games. We lost big to many bowl teams who got their rears kicked. However, Texas Tech only beat us in overtime and their miracle, history making rally to win a bowl game was just a wonderful thing to watch. That was our only good outing. Tulsa, Rice, Houston, New Mexico, etc., just clobbered us. Us, the pre-season pick.
Mike Price might have to make El Paso his home for a few years if he doesn't get on the winning track. After his queer ordeal in Alabama, he was fortunate that we hired him. If he is really a good coach, then he needs to settle in, do some damn good recruiting,some heavy conditioning, some smart play calling and get a top-notch defensive co-ordiantor, and make us a winner again...not with another coach's recruits.
As for his two sons, the offensive and defensive co-ordinators, I wish they would get other jobs. We all have allegiance to our children but this deal smacks of nepotism too much. They should get their spurs under some other head coach. They called too many bone-headed plays or sets here and we were downright predictable in every aspect of the game. And we had some real stars that should have shined. Johnny Lee Higgins is as good a receiver as their is in the country and he can do the punt return thing too. He will be in
the pros, a shoe-in. Jordan Palmer ( His brother was MVP at SC and is now with Cincy) is a hot and cold QB with slow legs. He might make it in Canadian or European ball but he fumbles easily and his int's are 1st or 2nd in the nation. It would surprise me to see him in the NFL. We'll, maybe with Dallas....Parcells loves slow=footed QB's.
Have a Happy...***I loved it when USC didn't try to tun the clock but hit all pass plays to score a td after Michigan scored and came with eight points in the 4th.That missed extra point would have been dire straits had the game come down to it..and many do.

For now:Celebrate
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